Re: WINDOWS XP WONT BOOT
From: Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\) (user_at_#notme.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:24:19 -0700
My guess is your Dell disk is BIOS locked. Yes, you would need a retail XP
CD though you might want to first contact Dell to see what they say.
You should be able to perform this function unless there are some other
issues. In other words, you can to a repair install but you cannot do it
with the Dell disk as it was tied to other hardware and it thinks this is a
Now, if a retail disk doesn't work, you could install XP to a different
partition and then copy the data on your old setup to the new one.
You will likely be met with an access denied message in which case you will
need to take ownership of the files as follows:
Note, file ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights. How
you resolve it depends upon which version of XP you are running.
Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple File
Sharing" at system level.
However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode. Reboot, and start
hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for the administrator's
password. This is not your administrator account, rather it is the
machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a
password during setup.
If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press
Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll to
the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" deselect it
and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let you make a change,
move on to the next step.
Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the Security
tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was logged
on when you were refused permission to access the files. Click apply and
ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the name of
the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership for everything in
the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection:
"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well.
Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files when
you log back on as that user.
If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to
administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select Folder
Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File Sharing" is not
selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.
If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a user,
right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security tab, click
Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, you
should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects,"
place a check in the box and click apply and ok.
The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files in the
folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an admin account again,
right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and be
sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click add and type the
user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the necessary
permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click apply
That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that folder even
in a limited account.
-- Michael Solomon MS-MVP Windows Shell/User Backup is a PC User's Best Friend DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/ "Markus" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message news:email@example.com... > Hey guys: > > Tried everything you all said...I went to BIOS and made my > CD ROM the first boot. When I rebooted, it told me to hit > any key to start CD ROM boot and then it went back into > the same old screen as I originally described (with the > seconds counting down on the clock). The disc I was using > was the Windows XP disc that came with my Dell (it doesnt > say recovery on there..it says installation) but since I > bought it, the hard drive had to be changed and I now have > a Tyan motherboard on there in a new tower. So I assume > the Dell disc wont work anymore. The guy that fixed my > computer must have the XP disc he used? Anyway, he is out > of the business now, so what do I have to do? Buy a whole > new XP disc? Will that erase and override my entire hard > drive?> > > Thanks >>-----Original Message----- >>I'm really sorry Markus, I guess I hit send when I meant > to hit paste. >>There others have you covered but for the record, here > are the instructions: >> >>NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files > intact, if >>something goes wrong during the repair install, you may > be forced to start >>over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have > your data backed up, >>you would lose your data should that eventuality occur. >> >>Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive > and you have an >>actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP >>CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined > below. If the >>system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, > you need to enter >>the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first > screen usually has >>instructions that if you wish to enter set press a > specific key, when you >>see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the > boot sequence, if >>the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the > boot sequence. Save >>your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The > system will reboot. >> >>When the system boots, a few screens into the process you > may see a message >>instructing you >>to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a > countdown. When >>you see this be sure to >>hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction > and the system fails >>to boot from the CD, it's too >>late, you'll need to reboot and try again. >> >>Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You > will see a reference >>asking if you need to load special drivers and another > notice that if you >>wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) > depress F2. Just let >>setup run past all of that. It will continue to load > files and drivers. >> >>Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will > come to a screen >>with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair > Windows Installation >>using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want > at this screen is >>"Setup Windows," >>NOT "Repair Windows Installation. >> >>The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want > and requires you to >>press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user > agreement. Setup >>will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon > finding your >>version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current > installation or >>install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair > installation. From there >>on, follow the screens. >> >>Note, in some cases, you won't receive the repair option, > only an option to >>reinstall. We have discovered that sometimes this is > caused by damaged >>boot.ini file that can be repaired as follows and also > note, in the >>instructions, "K" refers to the CD drive in which you > have placed the XP CD, >>replace that drive letter with the appropriate letter on > your system, "K" is >>simply an example. >> >>Reboot, this time taking the immediate R option (this is > the section I told >>you to skip above. In this case, you will need to get to > the Recovery >>Console to perform the function below), and if the CD > letter is say K: give >>these commands >> >>COPY K:\i386\ntldr C: >>COPY K:\i386\ntdetect.com C: >> (two other files needed - just in case) >>ATTRIB -H -R -S C:\boot.ini >>DEL C:\boot.ini >>BootCfg /Rebuild >> >>Once you've completed this function, reboot and see if > you can access XP as >>sometimes, the problem is the damaged boot.ini. If you > still cannot access >>XP, then reboot and re-run the repair install > instructions at the beginning >>of this message. >> >>If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite > limited. You can >>either purchase a retail version of XP which will allow > you to perform the >>above >>among other tools and options it has or you can run your > system recovery >>routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your > drive, deleting all >>files but will restore your setup to factory fresh > condition. >> >>-- >>Michael Solomon MS-MVP >>Windows Shell/User >>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend >>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/ >> >>"Markus" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in > message >>news:email@example.com... >>> Please repost..the web link or instructions seem to be >>> missing >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>Try a Repair Install as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Michael Solomon MS-MVP >>>>Windows Shell/User >>>>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend >>>>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/ >>>> >>>>"Markus" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in >>> message >>>>news:email@example.com... >>>>> Here is the message I get: >>>>> >>>>> WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE, BUT WINDOWS DID > NOT >>>>> START SUCCESSFULLY. A RECENT HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE > CHANGE >>>>> MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THIS. >>>>> >>>>> IF YOUR COMPUTER STOPPED RESPONDING, RESTARTED >>>>> UNEXPECTEDLY, OR WAS AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN TO > PROTECT >>>>> YOUR FILES AND FOLDERS, CHOOSE LAST KNOWN GOOD >>>>> CONFIGURATION TO REVERT TO THE MOST RECENT SETTINGS > THAT >>>>> WORKED. >>>>> >>>>> IF A PREVIOUS STARTUP ATTEMPT WAS INTERRUPTED DUE TO A >>>>> POWER FAILURE OR BECAUSE THE POWER OR START BUTTON WAS >>>>> PRESSED, OR IF YOU ARENT SURE WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM, >>>>> CHOOSE START WINDOWS NORMALLY. >>>>> >>>>> Beneath that are listed: >>>>> >>>>> SAFE MODE >>>>> SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING >>>>> SAFE MODE WITH COMMAND PROMPT >>>>> >>>>> LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION (YOUR MOST RECENT > SETTINGS >>>>> THAT WORKED) >>>>> >>>>> Below that, the following is already highlighted: >>>>> >>>>> START WINDOWS NORMALLY >>>>> >>>>> Then it says: >>>>> >>>>> USE THE UP AND DOWN ARROW KEYS TO MOVE THE HIGHLIGHT > TO >>>>> YOUR CHOICE. >>>>> >>>>> SECONDS UNTIL WINDOWS STARTS: (timer keeps ticking > down >>>>> from 30 seconds to 0 seconds) >>>>> >>>>> Here is my problem: My keyboard cant move the >>> highlighted >>>>> bar to any other choice but START WINDOWS NORMALLY and >>> the >>>>> clock keeps ticking down from 30 seconds to 0, the >>> system >>>>> reboots and brings me back to the same page over and >>> over. >>>>> I cant move the highlight bar to any other choice like >>>>> SAFE MODE. >>>>> >>>>> I have a Dell 4300 with a Tyan motherboard and Windows >>> XP. >>>>> >>>>> Any help? Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>. >>>> >> >> >>. >>