Re: Automatic and web based Windows Update Installs all fail...

From: Don Holmes (don_holmes_at_minervaengineering.com)
Date: 07/29/04


Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:39:29 -0700

Thanks for the reply Chuck.

I had seen this article and had completed the resolution recommendation through step 15 however step 16 didn't work because for whatever reason the Cryptographic Services (cryptsvc) isn't installed on the system (that I can determine). From what I've read, apparently it doesn't show up in Win2k using the administrators services application so I'm not sure it is "there". However since I can't stop/start it from the command line either I'll assume it isn't there (as a service anyway).

So, I'm left to conclude that it simply doesn't exist on the system. Neither does the catroot2 folder that this step suggests I rename. I've been searching for any info on why the cryptsvc may or may not exist but have had no luck yet. The odd thing is that I was able to unregister and reregister the DLL files that are apparently associated with the Cryptographic Services as suggested in Method 4 at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;822798

Any thoughts on whether the "missing" cryptsvc and/or catroot2 folder are the problem and how that can be fixed?

Thx, D

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  "Chuck" <yadayada@blah.blah> wrote in message news:RNydnQzN-IV9oZXcRVn-ug@comcast.com...
  You seem rather knowledgeable, see if this helps:
  "Administrators only" error message when you attempt to use the Windows Update site
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316524&Product=wupd
  -- 
  Chuck
    "Don Holmes" <don_holmes@minervaengineering.com> wrote in message news:%23rrzXWOdEHA.2908@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    {Subject renamed to be more accurate}
    I have a Gateway 600YGR running Win2K Pro Version 5.0 (build 2195: Service Pack 4).
    For roughly the last two or three months (it appears) the automatic (and manual, web based) Windows Updates have been failing.  I did notice one or two that worked over the last few months but I believe they were drivers only.  When I run the web update from v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com the downloads work however the installations fail.  The message on the resulting "failed to install" webpage is "No Updates Were Installed" and there are no error codes whatsoever.  When I try to do the updates manually or one by one they all return the error message that "You do not have permission to update Windows 2000. Please contact your system administrator."  I am the system administrator and have even made myself a domain administrator to try to fix this problem...
    To the best of my knowledge and research there were no security policies/authorities changed since this last worked.  Using secpol.msc (Local Policies-> User Rights Assignment) I verified that Administrators (and even my own user account and local machine Administrator) had the authority to:
    Back up files and directories
    Manage auditing and security log
    Modify firmware environment values
    Restore files and directories
    Take ownership of files or other objects
    It doesn't matter if I login as the Network Administrator, Local Administrator, or Domain Administrator - same behavior...
    I've completely removed the WUTemp directory and have forced recreation of the WindowsUpdate\V4 directory as well.  I do not have a firewall running on the machine and the network firewall protects dozens of other machines on which Windows Update works fine...  Downloads of the update files are received fine and security permissions on them are as expected (meaning I have full control of them).  I've turned off all real-time file protection in Symantec AV just in case there was something strange there but still no change...
    I've search high and low for anything on Microsoft's site and the web in general for ANYTHING on the message that "You do not have permission to update Windows 2000" and while I have found a few for XP, I've found nothing for Win2K.  Just in case, I verified all of the dll registrations, MS root certificate, etc as suggested there to no avail.
    When I attempt to run the "repair Windows 2000" feature using the original CD, (by clicking on the Install Windows 2000 link), I receive the infamous message "You must be an administrator to run this application".  Again, I'm about as much of an Administrator (authority-wise) as one can be...  Note that when using the "Install Add-On Components" link from the Win2K Pro CD - I can install/remove components using the Windows Components Wizard apparently without any issues... (at least none that Windows complains about where I can see it...)
    I sure could use a fresh perspective on this one as it has stumped me completely... I'll include excerpts from the WindowsUpdate.log file as well as the iuhist.xml file below...  At the bottom I include an excerpt from the KB839645.log file (one that is failing and representative of all that are failing) and it has references in it to Update.exe issuing an error code of 0xf004 and indicates something about failing to enable SE_SECURITY_PRIVILEGE but for the life of me I can't tell why...  Thoughts ...
    Below is an excerpt of the WindowsUpdate.log file for this last attempt via website:
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUCTL          Starting
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUCTL          Downloaded iuident.cab from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v4/ to C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUCTL          Current iuengine.dll version: 5.4.3790.14
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUCTL          Current iuctl.dll version: 5.4.3790.14
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUENGINE       Starting
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUENGINE       Determining machine configuration
    2004-07-28 09:22:57  16:22:57   Success   IUENGINE       Determining machine configuration
    2004-07-28 09:23:00  16:23:00   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:01  16:23:01   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:02  16:23:02   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:07  16:23:07   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:08  16:23:08   Success   IUENGINE       Determining machine configuration
    2004-07-28 09:23:09  16:23:09   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/consumerdrivers/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:51  16:23:51   Success   IUENGINE       Querying software update catalog from https://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/getmanifest.asp
    2004-07-28 09:23:52  16:23:52   Success   IUENGINE       Asynchronous Download started
    2004-07-28 09:23:52  16:23:52   Success   IUENGINE       Download destination root folder is: C:\WUTemp
    2004-07-28 09:23:59  16:23:59   Success   IUENGINE       Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/Windows2000-KB840315-x86-ENU-express_67a0bec57f33208902e15d3ae1968f9.exe
    2004-07-28 09:23:59  16:23:59   Success   IUENGINE       Local path C:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.840315_W2K_SP5_WinSE_95927_Express\Windows2000-KB840315-x86-ENU-express.exe
    2004-07-28 09:23:59  16:23:59   Success   IUENGINE       Downloaded file http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/Windows2000-KB842526-x86-ENU-express_2f310dd9e91121cb09b4de620d7ae33.EXE
    ...
    2004-07-28 09:24:00  16:24:00   Success   IUENGINE       Local path C:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.839645_W2K_SP5_WinSE_96133_Express\Windows2000-KB839645-x86-ENU-express.exe
    2004-07-28 09:24:01  16:24:01   Success   IUENGINE       See iuhist.xml for details: Download finished
    2004-07-28 09:24:01  16:24:01   Success   IUENGINE       Asynchronous Install started
    2004-07-28 09:24:01  16:24:01   Success   IUENGINE       Asynchronous Install completed startup
    2004-07-28 09:24:01  16:24:01   Success   IUENGINE       Installing SOFTWARE item from publisher com_microsoft
    2004-07-28 09:24:01  16:24:01   Success   IUENGINE       Installer Command Type: EXE
    ...
    2004-07-28 09:24:21  16:24:21   Error     IUENGINE       See iuhist.xml for details: Install finished (Error 0x8007F004)
     Below is an excerpt of the iuhist.xml file for this last attempt via website:
      <?xml version="1.0" ?> 
    - <items xmlns="x-schema:http://schemas.windowsupdate.com/iu/resultschema.xml">
    - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-07-28T09:24:21">
    - <identity itemID="win2k.windows2000.ver_platform_win32_nt.5.0.x86.en...2195.4.0.com_microsoft.839645_w2k_sp5_winse_96133_express." name="839645_W2K_SP5_WinSE_96133_Express">
      <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName> 
      <language>en</language> 
      </identity>
    - <description hidden="0">
    - <descriptionText>
      <title>Security Update for Windows 2000 (KB839645)</title> 
      <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" /> 
      <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=30585" /> 
      </descriptionText>
      </description>
    - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_nt">
      <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture> 
      <version major="5" minor="0" build="2195" servicePackMajor="4" servicePackMinor="0" /> 
      </platform>
      <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" /> 
      <downloadPath>C:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.839645_W2K_SP5_WinSE_96133_Express</downloadPath> 
      <client>IU_Site</client> 
      <installStatus value="FAILED" needsReboot="0" errorCode="-2146963452" /> 
      </itemStatus>
    - <itemStatus xmlns="" timestamp="2004-07-28T09:24:19">
    - <identity itemID="win2k.windows2000.ver_platform_win32_nt.5.0.x86.en...2195.4.0.com_microsoft.directx_839643_w2k_9_0." name="DirectX_839643_W2K_9_0">
      <publisherName>com_microsoft</publisherName> 
      <language>en</language> 
      </identity>
    - <description hidden="0">
    - <descriptionText>
      <title>Security Update for DirectX 9.0 (KB839643)</title> 
      <eula href="/msdownload/update/v3/static/eula/en/eula.htm" /> 
      <details href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=27992" /> 
      </descriptionText>
      </description>
    - <platform name="ver_platform_win32_nt">
      <processorArchitecture>x86</processorArchitecture> 
      <version major="5" minor="0" build="2195" servicePackMajor="4" servicePackMinor="0" /> 
      </platform>
      <downloadStatus value="COMPLETE" /> 
      <downloadPath>C:\WUTemp\com_microsoft.DirectX_839643_W2K_9_0</downloadPath> 
      <client>IU_Site</client> 
      <installStatus value="FAILED" needsReboot="0" errorCode="-2146963452" /> 
     Below is an excerpt of the KB839645.log file for this last attempt via website:
    0.170: ================================================================================
    0.170: 2004/07/28 09:24:21.116 (local)
    0.170: c:\2a9f1fb20ffb27eb1352e2\update\update.exe (version 5.4.15.0)
    0.170: Failed To Enable SE_RESTORE_PRIVILEGE
    0.170:  Setup encountered an error:  You do not have permission to update Windows 2000.
    Please contact your system administrator.
    0.170: You do not have permission to update Windows 2000.
    Please contact your system administrator.
    0.170: Update.exe extended error code = 0xf004
    -- 
     


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