Re: XP Home User Temp Licence from W2K TS Box

Yes. As I've explained, you have to call the Clearinghouse and
change your 5 Per User licenses to 5 Per Device licenses.

Note also that there are already *9* temporary Per Device TS CALs
issued. So unless you start limiting the number of clients which
are used to connect to your TS, 5 TS CALs are not enough, you need
at least 9.

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"Sibine" <simon.jessop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 10 jul 2006 in
microsoft.public.win2000.termserv.clients:

Vera,

New update. I have logged onto Server2, the W2k3 box, and it
already has TSLS instaleld and running. In the current products
installed it has:

Existing Windows 2000 Server - Terminal Services CAL Token (per
device) - Built In - Total Unlimited - Available Unlimited -
Issued 12
Temporary Licenses for Windows 2000 Server - Terminal
Services CAL Token (per device) - Temporary - Total ' -
Available ' - Issued 1
Temporary Licenses for Windows Server
2003 - Terminal Services Per Device CAL Token - Temporary -
Total ' - Available ' - Issued 9
Windows Server 2003 - Terminal
Service Per Use CAL Token - Open - Total 5 - Available 5 -
Issued 0.

Is there anything here which needs changing or addressing before
I continue?

thanks,

Simon

I trust I ust



Sibine wrote:
Vera,

Thank you so much. I am back in the office on Monday when I
will do this, rebooting Monday night. I will update this topic
accordingly with the result.

Looking forward to having a happy client!

You have been a great help!

Simon


Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
OK, I'm glad that we have the cause of the problem
identified! The solution is this:
* you have to install the TS Licensing Service on the 2003
Domain Controller. A 2003 TS Licensing Server can handle TS
CALs for both a 2003 and a 2000 Terminal Server.
* then you have to install the licenses on the 2003 TSLS.
Because you already have installed these licenses on the 2000
TSLS, you cannot install them again without calling the
Microsoft Clearinghouse. They will issue you a new license
pack and guide you through the process.
And you need to call them anyway, because you *must* change
your license type to 2003 *Per Device* licnses! Per User will
not work, as I explained.
* it doesn't matter that the licenses are 2003 TS CALs, they
will be issued to the 2000 TS anyway (as long as they are Per
Device). * note that the above procedure will require a
reboot of your Domain Controller
* finally, you can uninstall the TS Licensing Service from
the 2000 server.

291795 - HOW TO: Locate a Phone Number for the Microsoft
Clearinghouse
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291795
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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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"Sibine" <simon.jessop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 08 jul 2006 in
microsoft.public.win2000.termserv.clients:

Vera,

Ahhh I now understand! I think I misread your original post
- now it all sinking in!

Server1: Windows 2000 Server (TS, Applications, Data)
Server2: Windows 2003 Server (Exchange, Domain Controller)

All my home users connect into Server1. Server1, as above,
is the machine I installed the TS CALs on, and which runs
the TS Licensing service.

Server1 is indeed a member Server of the domain.

Yes I am seeing both ErrorID 29 and ErrorID 7024 in my
event log!

How would you suggest I fix this problem? P.s. Your help
and patience is greatly appreciated.

Deep thanks,

Simon


Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
Hi Simon,

I think you misread my reply. Of course you can install TS
CALs on a 2000 TS Licensing Server, but not *Per User* TS
CALs. It is correct that you can only buy 2003 TS CAL, but
when you install them on a 2000 TS Licensing Server, they
are automatically "downgraded" to 2000 TS CALs. BUT: you
can only install *Per Device* TS CALs on a 2000 TS
Licensing Server, not *Per User*, for the reason I gave in
my first reply.

From the Windows Server 2003 Pricing and Licensing FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensi
ng/pr iclic faq.mspx
Q. Can I downgrade a TS CAL for use on a Windows 2000
terminal server?
A. Yes. You may downgrade Windows Server 2003 TS CALs.
However, both TS User and Device CALs will act as
device-based CALs when accessing a Windows 2000 terminal
server, as TS User CALs are not supported.

So you didn't install "5 user TS CAL's", you installed 5
*device* TS CAL's.

You don't write explicitly on which server the TS
Licensing Service is running. But since you write that the
TS LS runs on 2000, I assume that it runs on the same
server as the Terminal Server, is that correct?
And that server is a member server in the domain, correct?
If so, then that is your problem: A W2K TS Licensing
Server *must* run on a domain controller, as documented
here:

277917 - Terminal Server Licensing Service Failure
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=277917

Can you verify in the EventLog on the server if this event
(or any other events regarding licensing) are recorded
there?

_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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simon.jessop@xxxxxxxxx wrote on 08 jul 2006 in
microsoft.public.win2000.termserv.clients:

Hi Vera,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

The TS Licensing Server is 2000, not 2003.

How can TS CAL's only be installed on a 2003 Licensing
server? I have a client with a 2000 Server which runs TS
CALS?? Thoughts?

Maybe that is where the issue is. The only option when I
wanted TS CALs was for 2003 TS CALs?! Thoughts?

Ok environment as per below:

DC: W2K3
TS: W2K

All users dial into the TS server and use applications
and files from there. The DC also handles MS Exchange
2003 which they use through Outlook via TS.

Thanks

Simon

Vera Noest [MVP] wrote:
Which OS is your Terminal Services Licensing Server
running? You write that you "purchased 5 user TS
CAL's". Per User TS CALs can only be installed on a
2003 TS Licensing Server, and only used by a 2003
Terminal Server (because they were introduced with
Windows 2003, so a W2K TS doesn't recognize
them). Can that be your problem?

If you have a W2K TS Licensing Server (and thus
installed not Per User, but Per Device TS CALs), then
the problem could be that the TS cannot locate the LS.
Could you please post details about your environment:
which OS on the TS, TS LS and the DC? On which server
runs the TS LS?

Note that:
FYI my server is setup in 'PER SEAT' as opposed to
'PER SERVER' mode.
has nothing to do with TS CALs. This describes how your
server is configured to handle server CALs.
________________________________________________________
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MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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simon.jessop@xxxxxxxxx wrote on 08 jul 2006 in
microsoft.public.win2000.termserv.clients:

Much like nsouza
(http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.win
2000. ter mse
rv.clients/browse_frm/thread/e6e8abfa5d77fabd/ecc1b52a
6518c b65 ?ln k=raot#ecc1b52a6518cb65)

I have a very similar problem. My client connects
from their Windows XP Home machine into a
W2K TS box. We recently purchased 5 user TS CAL's for
these home remote users. However now I am getting the
yet the:

"Application popup: Terminal Services Warning : Your
terminal services temporary client license will
expire in 11 days. Please contact your system
administrator to get a permanent license."

I have only recently noticed that when the 5 TS CALs
were put on the server the TS Licencing service was
not running so I have now ensured this is running but
its not resolved the problem. FYI my server is setup
in 'PER SEAT' as opposed to 'PER SERVER' mode.

I look in my TS Licence Manager and none of the 5
licences I bought are allocated and everyone seems to
be stuck on temporary licences.

Any suggestions I have 11 days to fix it!!

Many thanks.

Simon
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