Re: Starting Windows 2000 hangs on new install.

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:28:57 +0000 (UTC)

DL <> wrote:
| Nothing special as far as I'm aware, I only had the problem with one
| AMD cpu, never cured it and I did swap it for another identical cpu,
| gave up, upgraded mobo and cpu.
| There have been reports of the occasional problems with various
| hardware and AMD, though this was some years ago, where seemingly
| with identical hardware one would have a conflict and the other
| wouldnt.
| I got into some deep conversations with BT and AMD over this issue.

BT ? - who are they ?
I would really like for MS to be involved. After all, it is Windows 2000
which is going wrong and failing to provide an error message.
I'll certainly have words with AMD support, who I expect will refer me to
Gigabyte, who in turn will either ignore me or refer me elsewhere.
The question is: if I were to go out and buy another GA-7VRXP m/board, AMD
XP2400 processor, and a fresh shrink-wrapped copy of Windows 2000 would it
all work ?
Kevin.

| "Kevin Lawton" <> wrote in message
| news:c6eqjg$43g$1@titan.btinternet.com...
|| DL <> wrote:
||| I've changed mobo's and cpu's on many Win2K setups the only one I
||| had trouble with was a1.3Duron, and that was an heat problem, even
||| using OTT coolers - never got to the bottom of it!!
|||
||| When I mentioned entering the bios I meant was the new cpu being
||| correctly identified
||
|| Yes - the BIOS identifies both the Duron 650 and the XP2400
|| correctly. In the Windows Me installation which works with either
|| processor (I swap HDs) I have a few utilities which can run system
|| identification and
| benchmarking -
|| everything shows up correctly with all of them. What I don't have is
|| any software to fully test out a CPU. I can identify it, burn it in
|| and benchmark it - but not fully test it, the whole works - all
|| instructions, caches, pipelines, everything. I think that this would
|| have to be my next step short of actually buying another XP2400
|| (ouch - my poor wallet). I guess there isn't a special way you have
|| to install Windows 2000 on an XP processor because of the SSE
|| instructions, is there ?
|| TIA
|| Kevin.
||
||| "Kevin Lawton" <> wrote in message
||| news:c6deah$s2r$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
|||| DL <> wrote:
||||| Sorry missed the line about mobo;
|||| No worries, mate, it was early on in the thread. ;-)
||||| With mobo switches on auto, Boots/Runs OK with Duran. - yes?
|||| Oh yes, yes, yes. I can even play around with the FSB and
|||| multiplier switches and overclock the Duron 650 up to 897 MHz and
|||| it still
|||| works fine. Solid processor, that Duron.
||||| Matrox drivers installed for win2k? - yes?
|||| Well, no they weren't. Matrox cards do the standard VESA modes
|||| properly so they are fine with Windows 'generic VGA card' drivers.
|||| I have now tried installing the latest Matrox drivers and guess
|||| what ? - no change.
||||| Change the cpu, restart, enter the bios and check settings, eg
||||| cpu.
|||| I've tried this, with the settings on auto and with the settings
|||| forcing the correct FSB and multiplier. I've even tried
|||| underclocking the XP2400 a bit. Still no change - works fine in
|||| Windows Me and hangs at Windows 2000 startup.
||||| If OK reboot from win2k installation disk ( you may have to
||||| enable boot from cd in bios) and repair.
|||| Tried this and of course the repair installation hangs after the
|||| 'Starting Windows' progress bar again. Had to swap back to the
|||| Duron 650 to get that to finish again.
||||| Other than that you appear to have covered everything.
|||| That's what I thought, but there is still a problem. The way things
|||| are going I might be better off using this PC as landfill and
|||| 'cover everything' with concrete !
||||| Good luck
|||| I think I need more than luck - I need a miracle. At least, I could
|||| do with some decent diagnostics out of Windows 2000. I don't really
|||| want to have to spend the rest of my life trying to edit video on a
|||| Duron 650.
|||| Thanks for the help.
|||| Kevin.
||||
||||| "Kevin Lawton" <> wrote in message
||||| news:c61h6v$r0f$1@titan.btinternet.com...
|||||| Sorry- I though that was known. The motherboard is a Gigabyte
|||||| GA-7VRXP (I have tried two samples) Rev1.1, as staed in my
|||||| original post which is still at the foot of this thread.
|||||| Originally I left the m/board switches for FSB and multiplier in
|||||| the 'auto' setting, as was the memory bus clock. Since then I've
|||||| tried slowing things down from 133 MHz to 100 MHz on the FSB
|||||| (effectively 266 -> 200 due to DDR), and from 166 MHz to 133 MHz
|||||| then 100 MHz on the memory bus clock (DDR = 333 -> 266 -> 200).
|||||| Same result every time - problem persists.
|||||| M/board BIOS is 'F12', which is the latest on the Gigabyte web
|||||| site. Not too sure what else I can adjust without doing damage.
|||||| Kevin.
||||||
|||||| DL <> wrote:
||||||| If I understand correctly;
||||||| Using Duran, win2k installed and booted correctly
||||||| With XP2400 it wouldnt boot ( Win98 is I believe slightly more
||||||| hardware 'fault' tolerant)
||||||| If this is the case might suggest a mobo setting, with this cpu,
||||||| or possibly bios update required.
||||||| What is the mobo?
|||||||
||||||| "Kevin Lawton" <> wrote in message
||||||| news:c60fh8$dc7$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
|||||||| I'm on about as mininal as the system can go anyway, the only
|||||||| card being the Matrix G400 graphics card.
|||||||| I've tried swapping every system component individually for a
|||||||| replacement - except for the processor (expensive !). The same
|||||||| result every time - the system hangs when the 'Starting
|||||||| Windows' progress bar completes. With a fresh install, this is
|||||||| as far as I can get - the install
|||||||| hasn't completed sufficiently to give me any 'recovery'
|||||||| options.
|||||||| I did try swapping out the XP2400 processor for an old Duron
|||||||| 650 - and it worked fine ! Problem with that is that the
|||||||| Duron 650 doesn't give enough performance for the video
|||||||| editing I'm
|||||||| planning to do.
|||||||| After the system was fully working with the Duron 650 I went
|||||||| back to the XP2400 and the problem re-emerged just the same. I
|||||||| also tried installing Windows Me and that runs on the XP2400
|||||||| fine, so I'm not inclined to blame the processor.
|||||||| Could there be something which Windows 2000 is doing with the
|||||||| XP2400 which doesn't happen with a different processor or op
|||||||| system ?
|||||||| I'm really confused with this - any help gratefully
|||||||| appreciated. Kevin.
||||||||
|||||||| DL <> wrote:
||||||||| Tried installing to min sys, Monitor, KeyB, mouse,cd - no
||||||||| cards, extra hardware
||||||||| and or with a single DDR?
|||||||||
||||||||| "Kevin Lawton" <> wrote in message
||||||||| news:15bf201c41b60$b9c8a000$a601280a@phx.gbl...
|||||||||| I've just installed Windows 2000 onto a new machine and it
|||||||||| hangs indefinitely when the 'Starting Windows' progress bar
|||||||||| completes. No error messages or re-boots - it just hangs.
|||||||||| Machine spec:
|||||||||| AMD XP2400 processor,
|||||||||| Gigabyte GA-7VRXP m/board,
|||||||||| 2 x 256 Mb DDR PC2700 RAM,
|||||||||| 330w PSU,
|||||||||| Seagate 60 Gb HDD.
|||||||||| The m/board, memory and HDD have been swapped-out with no
|||||||||| change in result. The system can boot into DOS, from either
|||||||||| floppy or HD fine.
|||||||||| I think I might have seen similar problems reported before,
|||||||||| but don't recall seeing any solution.
|||||||||| Please help.
|||||||||| Regards,
|||||||||| Kevin.

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