Re: [A Bonus ?] Re: Shared/moved Font Folder
From: Michael (G-2_at_att.net)
Date: 08/30/04
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:59:40 GMT
<Snipped notes on (not) moving system files. I miss-wrote, my DLL cache
is 80 meg.
>>By creating that small FAT/boot partition, drive letters in hd0 (the
>>"clone) are bumped up a notch.
>
>
> Windows 2000 "tags" each drive and partition upon installation,
generating
> an unique ID depending on drive, system time, etc. If you replace the
drive
> with another one and boot, the drive letters will not be "notched"
onwards.
> This only happens on W9x (Wintendo). However, playing with bootable
drives
> is not a good idea.
>
> Also, "hiding" and "active" is only effective for W9x and DOS, and, of
> course, booting up. The NT5 disk manager can see and mount any partition,
> even hidden.
Yeah, I figured the "only" partition/volume which would cause trouble
would be moving the boot/system partition
>>Clue me in to why I needed to
>>create a FAT partition for DOS as I've described above?
>
>
> An itch. :)
>
> If you want to multiboot, the best idea is to boot to DOS 7+ (DOS
mode of
> W95/98). Unless you have a problem with that (I can't find such a reason,
> but whatever). Advantages are that DOS 7 has FAT32 support.
I'm a bid confused---I don't need a FAT 16 partition for Dos 7? (Of
course, it appears so as I look at this laptop (win98se) ---again, all
Fat32 with/DOS
If you mean booting from a floppy---I do---I have to. Again, I use so
many various DOS utilities, it would be nice to have them on the system
rather than juggling a bunch of floppies. (One floppy hold enough for
boot/cdrom/network support only----then I have to go to other floppies
for various tasks)
> Complex booting solutions, like 3-OS boot need to be thought up at the
> very beginning. If you feel such an itch, create a 1-gig FAT partition at
> the beginning of disk 1 and another 1 or 2 primary partitions, for
the rest
> of the OSs.
A gig sound awfully large. In this new drive I formatted 20 meg (FAT)
which could hold five times the DOS stuff I have...
> The partition's target is to hold boot loader for the best OS and,
maybe,
> a small DOS or Windows 9x. W98 installs and boots in about 300Mb, and 500
> should be enough. This is to remain the boot partition. Install 24 on
> primary partition 2 and XP on 3 if you want, but leave partition 1 as
> bootable, FAT16.
Well, that was the basic plan, albeit with a much smaller FAT16. Then
you threw me off by suggesting DOS 7 is fine with a FAT32 partition.
(Meaning I don't have to do nuttin?) I simply sys DOS 7 in the same
partition w/w2k?) Again---some repair work will need to be done since
w2k "must" be the last system loaded?!)
> If you didn't do this at beginning, it's more complicated, as W2k
is not
> as bare and stripped as W9x which doesn't even "boot", it just
executes from
> DOS. NT has partition signatures, path storage, etc. Also keeps SID,
UID and
> thus cannot be imaged and copied against another system unless (rather
> complex) software prepares system registry while the system hasn't booted
> yet.
No, the w2k's have resided in their primary partitions for some time.
This was an afterthought.
> My best bet would be to back it all up, re-partition, re-install and
> restore. This will get you a robust multi-boot system.
I figured on a re-install. However, I've had a couple of major
problems---figured I'd need a re-install and when I got "near" that
point W2k asked if I wanted ("it") to try and repair the particular
install---while it took just as long as a complete install----all my
settings were there.
> Another bet is to use HDD0 for NT and HDD1 for DOS/9x. You can
switch in
> BIOS setup. Or install an advanced boot loader.
Well, as far as part one? Since hd1 is in a drive caddy----if I want to
mess with the BIOS before boot, I can pretty much do what I want with
it. However, I'm not sure I'll retain full access to both drives.
I have done much research on at least 6-10 boot loaders and tried a
couple. All have at least a couple of drawbacks. One really screwed up
my partition table...I would prefer a robust version of boot.ini---but
obviously a multi-OS boot manager has to monkey around with the disk
more than an MS only solution.
> But this is meant to be expert domain. You are supposed to
understand in
> detail how MBR works, how partition tables are stored, how different OSs
> store data and boot limitations. Partition and drive juggling without
> through understanding of the inner workings will render your computer
unable
> to boot.
I think I have a good grip on MBR and partition tables.
I think I'll see what happens with putting DOS 7 and w2k boot file in
that 20meg FAT 16 partition---of course my hope is that (since it will
move w2k up a drive letter) the w2k install disk will be able to
"repair" W2k (that would reside in D:\ instead of C:\).
Again, I have found w2k quite forgiving---the "standard" repair is
limited, but if one has the time, the setup disk can fix about anything
and keep what you started out with. In fact, it does everything
possible to stop one from re-installing!
Thanks a bunch
Michael
> --
> Andrei "Ndi" Dobrin
> Brainbench MVP
> www.Brainbench.com
>
>
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