Re: Old Bodge-Up: Where to Start
- From: "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:01:07 -0600
If the router has a firewall use it, that reduces the risk of invasion when
you relax security settings on other machines (or if the settings are
screwed up anyway).
You could use the new (old) server for this if you want to go right to the
shared folders you'll be using.
Concentrate on getting the router info (What it can do and what it can't) if
you can find it. Then get one PC up and running through it, I suggest you
sign in as Admin and come up with a decent password (you know 8+ characters,
caps numbers and # or similar) and then go to the shared files and make sure
that sharing and NTFS permissions will give that user access. You "Should"
change the name from Administrator so do that and reboot first if you like.
Since it's 2000 server you may find the DHCP and DNS and WINS server
services running by default. Stop them for now and see if the router will do
it. (I am assuming that settings info for the router will be harder to find
than 2000 server stuff :) Don't stop the clients.
Strictly speaking it should have a fixed IP but you can always try automatic
settings in the interface properties if you have trouble, then fix the
settings at whatever the router gave you.
Next insert the switch and see that all still works with regards to internet
access etc. If it does check for security updates right away.
Now set up the same admin user name and password on another machine. Check
the interface properties and set to automatic IP and DNS. If the server
worked this should work. See if you can see the shares on the server. If you
can then you should get all the others up and running by following similar
procedure. Try through the switch and both in the router if you have
problems, that will help narrow down the problem area if there is one.
As you get a machine up and running start it doing updates at the Windows /
Microsoft Update sites, that will save a bit of time.
PLEASE NOTE:-
I am sure this is "Not" the official or proper way to go about this because
it takes little account of security but I am assuming a couple of things
from your post.
1. You want to see if the hardware is going to work for you.
2. You don't want to take a lot of time only to find it has to be done over
if machines you are unfamiliar with have their own problems.
3. It is likely that there are already security problems but you don't want
to reinstall 4 machines at the same time so we don't have that much to lose.
4. That the network did work in the past.
5. There is a risk that one infected machine may infect others - the broken
network may have been a good thing in that sense - if you can do Antivirus
check first by all means do so.
To be honest I think much of your trouble will be resolved when you have the
common Admin user to begin with and then work through and set up users
properly with the right access... as far as internet access is concerned if
the procedure gets one machine working then problems with other machines
will give you the clue that it's the machine rather than the network.
As for the hardware I'm not familiar with it but I would think if there's an
outlet on the switch marked uplink use it, if they are not marked
differently use any, and no crossover cable should be necessary unless the
manual says so.
Then you might want to come back and get more technical advice on security
from the real network experts here. I'm not but I have been in your
situation a couple of times :)
Charlie
<googlespam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I am not experienced with setting up networks, and I am trying to do
> something with a non-functioning one that I have inherited in a very
> small organisation without the resources to get someone in.
>
> It is currently a peer-to-peer network, mixture of XP Home and XP Pro,
> connected by a BTInternet router which acts as four-socket hub and DHCP
> server. There are three main issues to address.
>
> 1) It doesn't work. This may simply be bypassed by making the other
> changes, but it's worth noting. Some PCs can access the Internet, but
> some can't. Some PCs can browse others, but some can see icons for
> shared areas on other PCs, but can't browse them (error messages very
> vague, mentioning permissions, lack of resources etc, but there must be
> some general problem). Some can't even see icons for the others. DHCP
> assignment of IP addresses in the same range as the router seems not to
> work a lot of the time, but even when manually assigned in the same
> range, the problems are the same.
>
> 2) There aren't enough sockets, so I want to add a five-socket Netgear
> switch I've got. But here I am a bit confused about the uplink
> situation. The Netgear switch has an uplink button, and I assume I
> would need to use that or a crossover cable to extend the network, but
> at the same time, the Internet router is just another network device,
> which I wouldn't expect to treat as an uplink, so I am not sure of the
> configuration when it doubles as a hub.
>
> 3) I want to add in an old server, on which Windows 2000 Server will be
> installed, to provide a proper shared area that everyone can browse and
> a domain for proper security. So there's a number of questions here.
> Firstly, where should I plug this into whatever switch/router
> configuration I end up with? Should I try to use the server as the
> DHCP server for the domain I want to create? Should I just abandon
> DHCP (if the BT router will allow that)?
>
> If it comes to it, I assume that BT will advise on the router settings,
> but won't support anything else, which generally means refusing to
> answer questions, so any advice will be very gratefully received before
> I waste too much time on the phone to them.
>
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