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From: Herb Martin (news_at_LearnQuick.com)
Date: 02/19/05


Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:41:40 -0600


"Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
news:OSDlGOqFFHA.2756@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> How do I tell what kind of traffic it is? I am not seeing that in NetMon.
> Please keep in mind also that I only have the standard version that comes
> with Win2K Server.
>

I open NetMon [even server version]; capture packets;
hit Capture -> Start; [wait a while or induce some traffic];
hit Capture -> Stop and View.

Most packets are obvious from the PROTOCOL column.
(Also combined with the Description column.)

Click a packet to see (parsed) detail and hex/ASCII dump
windows -- click again to get back to summary only.

-- 
Herb Martin
>
> "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
> news:Ogq6wahFFHA.1836@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwxuhrgFFHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > I do have a WINS.  It looks like about 3% is broadcast traffic.  I
also
> > have
> > > ethereal installed.
> >
> > That is not excessive but it might be more than
> > necessary.  Also it might be less that it appears
> > if you haven't got much real data traversing the
> > net. (1 is 10% of 10 etc.)
> >
> > Are all of your machines (DCs, WINS servers, every
> > client) also WINS clients?  (They should be.)
> >
> > Why?  If "servers" aren't WINS clients they never
> > register themselves and then are not in the WINS
> > database for (real) clients to find -- same is true
> > for (dynamic) DNS.
> >
> > Also DHCP WINS clients must have the option for
> > Node Type set (usually to 8 which is WINS first,
> > broadcast only if it fails.)
> >
> > > Do you know the filter to just display broadcast
> > > traffic?  Ethereal might tell me a bit more than the standard Network
> > > Monitor.
> >
> > Not off the top of my head -- but in NetMon
> > (included with every server) the broadcasts
> > are given as a percent and it has a "visual
> > language" for setting up capture and display
> > filters.
> >
> > Also, once you capture a bunch of stuff, you
> > can probably spot the broadcasts and then
> > filter on their traffic (types.)
> >
> > Give me some examples of the broadcast packets...
> >
> > There should be almost no NetBIOS traffic if you
> > have WINS (client and server) right.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Herb Martin
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ezNTmlgFFHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > "Preacher Man" <SLawson@bouldincorp.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uHJjvagFFHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I am trying to monitor my traffic to see if I am having excess
> > > broadcasts
> > > > on
> > > > > my network.
> > > >
> > > > Reasonable, but it is usually easier to just
> > > > setup so that it isn't happening -- then look
> > > > for exceptions.
> > > >
> > > > > I realize that there will usually be some broadcast, but what
> > > > > is normal for a network of about 60 pc's?  In about 5 minutes I
have
> > had
> > > > > about 230 broadcast.
> > > >
> > > > That means each PC broadcast about once per minute
> > > > or had about 4 broadcasts each.
> > > >
> > > > How much traffic do you have overall?  What percentage
> > > > of the packets are broadcast?  This will tell more than
> > > > raw numbers usually.
> > > >
> > > > WHAT are the broadcasts?  (What type? What protocol?)
> > > >
> > > > What were they doing?  This is NOT a lot of traffic but
> > > > it seems odd -- IP machines MUCH broadcast for IP
> > > > resolution (ARP) but this caches so this wouldn't seem
> > > > to account for it unless they were all just turned on (finding
> > > > 3 servers each and a gateway/router) or something similar.
> > > >
> > > > They MAY broadcast for NetBIOS resolution (especially
> > > > if you have No WINS server and only one subnet.)  We
> > > > might attribute half the broadcasts to NetBIOS and half
> > > > to ARP but we can stop the NetBIOS (totally or nearly
> > > > so) with WINS server.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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