Re: Network not working

From: Kubla (meninblack_kubla_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 12/16/04


Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:39:59 -0800

John John

>Are you sure that your shares didn't somehow get deleted or changed? Select
a folder you want to share then right
>click Sharing and select sharing to see if you can add a new share,<

I selected a couple of folders and added new shares. Problem remained.

>The reason for this browser election is quite simple. There needs to be one
Master Browser. In a 2 computer network
>like yours it doesn't matter so much which is master because both machines
need to be powered on in order to have a
>network. If you have more than 2 machines then one of the machines can be
off and the other ones can still be on the
>network, but there needs to be a Master Browser, if the machine that is
designated as the Master Browser is turned off
>then one of the other machine takes over via browser election. The problem
happens when no machine can take control
>or all want to take control. See here for more information on how that
works:<

I spent the last couple of days going over and over the information you sent
and that did not solve my problem. When I
looked at the registry key for MaintainServerList it was set on FALSE. I
changed it to AUTO and things remained the
same. Ditto with IsDomainMaster. It was set to AUTO.
I did notice that when I click on My Network Places, new shared drive icons
appeared. When I click on Computers
Near Me I get a text icon with blank text file. This makes me think
something is corrupt.
When I click on Entire Network, Microsoft Windows Network appears. When I
click on it, my network shows up after
about 30 seconds. When I click on my network, a blank page shows up after
about 40 seconds. Then I can go to search
and I can access my computer and all the folders.My local computer is still
invisible to my remote one.

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:OJSIlAG4EHA.2404@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Are you sure that your shares didn't somehow get deleted or changed?
> Select a folder you want to share then right click>Sharing and select
> sharing to see if you can add a new share.
>
> The Master Browser is set at the registry key:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters
>
> The 2 entries to verify are:
> IsDomainMaster
> MaintainServerList
>
> The values can be:
>
> MaintainServerList:
> False - Workstation will not be a browser
> True - The workstation may be a browser or backup browser.
> Auto - The workstation may become master, backup, or potential browser.
>
> IsDomainMaster:
> True - Is the master browser
> False - Is not the master browser
> Auto: Resolve through browser elections (default)
>
> The values can also be Yes, No, Auto or 0, 1, Auto.
>
> MaintainServerList: The value can be set to Auto on both machines,
> usually this causes no problems, this is the default value on W2K. It
> can be True on both machines and usually causes no problems. It can
> also be True on one machine and False or Auto on the other. It cannot
> be False on both.
>
> The IsDomainMaster key is where Master Browser issues can occur. There
> is a "Pecking Order" involved here. If both operating system systems
> are W2K then there is no "Natural Pecking Order" and a fight of sorts
> can happen between the 2 computers as there can only be one Master
> Browser. This Browser Election fight happens because W2K does not want
> to cede to the other. Now, for obvious reasons both machines cannot be
> set to False. Setting both machines to True causes a conflict as the
> machines fight over browser election and neither can win as there is no
> noble operating system. Setting both machines to Auto can cause the
> same election fight. Setting one machine to True and the other to Auto
> usually works and if not then set one machine to True and the other one
> to False.
>
> The reason for this browser election is quite simple. There needs to be
> one Master Browser. In a 2 computer network like yours it doesn't
> matter so much which is master because both machines need to be powered
> on in order to have a network. If you have more than 2 machines then
> one of the machines can be off and the other ones can still be on the
> network, but there needs to be a Master Browser, if the machine that is
> designated as the Master Browser is turned off then one of the other
> machine takes over via browser election. The problem happens when no
> machine can take control or all want to take control. See here for more
> information on how that works:
>
> Chapter 3 - Windows NT Browser Service
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windowsnt/4/server/reskit/en-us/net/chptr3.mspx
>
> (It's an NT Server document but applies to W2K).
>
> John
>
> Kubla wrote:
>
> > John, I did NET SHARE and the message was: "There are no entries in the
> >
> >>list." I did not remove any shares at all and I didn't disable file and
> >>print sharing. My firewall was turned off. There are no entries in the
> >
> > Event
> >
> >>viewer at all.
> >>I even ran my McAfee virus scan a couple of times. This is very
strange.
> >>Could you elaborate on the "Master Browser issue?"
> >>
> >>I appreciate the help and maybe these different thoughts will come up
with
> >>some solution.
> >>
> >
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:ehrC6br3EHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>It sounds like there are no file or print shares at all. Do NET SHARE
> >>and see what happens. Did you by any chance remove all the shares on
> >>your drives/folders and printers? Did you disable file and print
> >>sharing? Make sure your firewall isn't blocking anything, turn it off
> >>and see what happens. Other than that I think this could be a Master
> >>Browser issue, you either have no machine set to be Master Browser or
> >>both are set to be. You didn't tell us if there is an Event ID and
> >>error message in the event viewer, if something is there it may pinpoint
> >>the problem, post the information here.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>Kubla wrote:
> >>
> >>>I get the message "There are no entries in the list."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >>>news:%23ZOnf0f3EHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hmmm... Any error messages in the Event Viewer?
> >>>>
> >>>>What happens when you do NET VIEW?
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>Kubla wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Yes, John, I do. And thanks for the reply.
> >>>>>They have been that way for around three years. Just all of a sudden
> >
> > my
> >
> >>>>>desktop won't let me access the network.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Don
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:%231MCVJa3EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Do you have identical user names and passwords setup on each pc?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Kubla wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I am running Win 2000 and I have a wireless "G" network and for
some
> >>>>>
> >>>>>reason
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>my network is not right. I can access the internet on both of my
> >>>>>
> >>>>>networked
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>computers but I cannot access the networked computers including the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>local
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>and remote one from my desktop.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>When I click on My Network Places on my desktop, I have no
"computers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>near
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>me" and when I
> >>>>>>>click on my network (workgroup "c1a321") I get an error message
that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>says:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>{c1a321 is not accessible.
> >>>>>>>The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently
available. }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>When I try and access my network from my remote computer I can
access
> >>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>network and when I click on my network I get a message that I
cannot
> >>>>>
> >>>>>access
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>the desktop and maybe I need to have permission and to contact my
> >>>>>>>Administrator. Also, the message says "the network path was not
> >>>
> >>>found."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>can access the remote computer itself, so I know the problem is
with
> >
> > my
> >
> >>>>>>>local desktop.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>My router is accessible from both of my computers and everything
is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>setup
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>the same as when everything was working right but I still cannot
> >
> > access
> >
> >>>>>>>either the local computer or networked computer from each other.
The
> >>>>>
> >>>>>router
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>sees both computers and both computers can see the router.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>When I run "netstat -r" on my desktop, the route table shows my
> >
> > desktop
> >
> >>>>>as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>192.168.1.108 but the Linksys routing DHCP clients table shows my
> >>>>>
> >>>>>desktop as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>192.168.1.109. My remote computer (when I run "netstat -r") shows
my
> >>>>>
> >>>>>remote
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>IP address the same as when I run the Linksys routing DHCP clients
> >>>>>
> >>>>>table.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>This verifies my observation that the problem is only with my
> >
> > desktop.
> >
> >>>>>>>By the way, I do have McAfee firewall and I tried all this with the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>firewall
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>disabled and my problem was still there. Also, I checked my
Computer
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Browse
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>service and it is on Automatic and working I think.
> >>>>>>>.netBEUI is enabled on my desktop. My remote machine is running
> >
> > WinXP
> >
> >>>>>pro.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>I did look though the posts on this forum and found nothing to
solve
> >
> > my
> >
> >>>>>>>problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Does anyone have a clue as to what I might look for or what my
> >
> > problem
> >
> >>>>>might
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>be?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >



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