Re: Have to go to web site twice before it comes up

From: Victor S. ("Victor)
Date: 09/09/04 

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:42:34 -0400

OK. I've ruled out Internet Explorer. It's gotta be in the TCP/IP stack
somewhere. Telnet does the same thing. I try to telnet into port 80 of a
new site and it does not succeed. 2nd time though always succeeds. And
it's not limited to port 80. Telnetting into a mail server's SMTP port (25)
behaves the same way. (And, yes, I already checked for parasites.)

Anybody have any ideas as to what my next troubleshooting step should be? I
don't want to reinstall the TCP/IP stack yet because of all the services
running on top of it that will have to be re-set up (e.g. DNS, DHCP, AD,
Routing and Remote Access, ...).

Thanks Again,

Victor

"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
news:k5y%c.152376$mD.72999@attbi_s02...
> Hmm. I have never had that problem before. It seems as if you have ruled
out dns and
> seems to be a problem with IE itself. What I would try from here is to add
a couple
> of sites to the trusted Web Content Zone and set the security for it at
medium and
> then exempt those sites from cookie handling rules by adding them to the
sites list
> in the privacy page. I would also set internet advanced options to default
by
> selecting "restore defaults" at the bottom of the page. You may want to
document your
> current settings first. First though I would scan the computer for
parasites using
> AdAware and be sure to update it's definitions by selecting "check for
updates now"
> after opening the program and clear temporary internet files and cookies
before
> scanning. Any time IE is acting strange it is a good idea to scan for
parasites.
> AdAware is free and available at the link below. Read the results
carefully before
> "fixing" problems as some of the items it detects may have been
implemented by you. I
> use it on all my computers at home. --- Steve
>
> http://www.download.com/3000-2094-10045910.html?legacy=cnet
>
> "Victor S." <(none)> wrote in message
> news:%23%23tDoKWlEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for the quick response.
> >
> > I've tried clearing cookies and cache but it did not work. I also tried
> > getting in via Terminal Services as a different user and that user also
had
> > the same problem. I have not tried to set the parameter to check for
newer
> > versions of stored pages because this happens even with web sites that
have
> > never been visited before, ever. I've also tried pinging by name before
I
> > try to hit a site, after I've tried the first time, and after the
refresh.
> > The ping always works (and comes back immediately too, with no delay, so
I'm
> > pretty sure the problem is not with DNS lookups). In fact, I think I've
> > even tried pulling up sites by IP address only and the same thing
happens.
> > (I'm not positive though so I'll try this again next time I get a
chance.)
> > By the way, when I used nslookup, the DNS server shows as localhost with
> > it's loopback address and resolves the name right away. I just changed
the
> > primary DNS IP address to 10.10.100.10 and 10.10.10.10 on their
respective
> > interfaces and now nslookup does give me the name and domain suffix of
the
> > server as well as the 10.10.10.10 address.
> >
> > Can you think of anything else?
> >
> > Thanks Again,
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
> > "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:U%v%c.52024$3l3.31177@attbi_s03...
> >> You might try to delete all your temporary internet files and cookies
to
> > see if that
> >> helps and possibly change your settings for temporary internet files to
> > check for
> >> newer version of stored pages to every time you visit the page. Also
try
> > logging on
> >> as a different user to see if this happens. Next time it happens use
> > nslookup to see
> >> if your computer can resolve the domain name before you refresh. Don't
> > worry if
> >> nslookup gives you an error as it will if you do not have a reverse
zone
> > configured
> >> for the domain, as long as it shows the correct IP address for your dns

> > server and it
> >> can resolve names without timing out. Additionally try changing the IP
> > address for
> >> your preferred dns server to it's actual IP address instead on
127.0.0.1
> > to see if
> >> that makes a difference. --- Steve
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;200525
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B291382 ---
AD
> > dns FAQ.
> >>
> >> "Victor S." <(none)> wrote in message
> > news:ebEAPiVlEHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >I have a small business that has a Windows 2000 server (SP4). After
this
> >> > server has been up for a few hours, Internet Explorer cannot access
new
> > web
> >> > sites the first time. The user has to refresh the page before the
web
> > site
> >> > comes up. However, once this is done for the first page on a web
site,
> > the
> >> > user can browse the rest of the site with no problems. A reboot will
> >> > resolve this issue for a few hours.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > MORE DETAILS:
> >> > ----------------------
> >> >
> >> > Configuration info: This company shares DSL Internet access with
> > another
> >> > business in the same building. The central router that is connected
to
> > the
> >> > DSL service has an access point attached to it that both businesses
> > connect
> >> > to and does NAT. This business's server has a wireless NIC in it
> >> > (10.10.10.10) that connects to the access point (10.10.10.1). (Note,
> > all
> >> > subnet masks are 255.255.255.0.) It also has a wired NIC in it
> >> > (10.10.100.10) which connects to the rest of the business's PCs. (So
> > it's
> >> > dual-homed.) It has Routing and Remote Access enabled and all of the
> >> > computers go through it for Internet access. It is also the only
domain
> >> > controller. (I know, I know - they should have at least one more for
> >> > redundancy. When business picks up, they will get another PC and
> > another
> >> > copy of W2K Server.) It is also the DNS server and the DHCP server
> >> > (10.10.100.100 thru 199) for the business's other computers. It
points
> > to
> >> > itself for DNS (127.0.0.1) and DHCP hands out it's address
> > (10.10.100.10) as
> >> > the DNS server. Internet Explorer is not set up to use a proxy and
is
> > not
> >> > set up to automatically detect settings. (I also checked for
viruses,
> >> > worms, trojans, spyware, adware, and foreign BHOs.)
> >> >
> >> > After the server has been booted for a few hours (from one to six or
> > so),
> >> > Internet Explorer stops working properly. When a new web site is
> > visited,
> >> > it does not come up. Instead, an error comes up (I think it's page
> > cannot
> >> > be displayed). As soon as the user presses Refresh, the page comes
up.
> >> > (Also, if the user presses Refresh while the server is still trying
to
> > load
> >> > the page the first time, it comes right up.) After that, the user
can
> >> > browse any other page on that web site without any problems. But, as
> > soon
> >> > as the user tries to go to a new web site, the same thing happens.
> >> >
> >> > When this is happening, the server can successfully ping all of the
web
> >> > sites by name right off the bat, even before trying to get to them in
> >> > Internet Explorer. (Even after pinging successfully, IE still has
> > problems
> >> > with that web site.) The strangest thing is, all of the computers
that
> > go
> >> > through the server do not have any problems. Even while the server
is
> >> > exhibiting this issue, the client PCs get to the sites the first time
> > yet
> >> > the server has problems with those same sites.
> >> >
> >> > This one is driving me nuts. Anybody else having the same issue?
What
> > can
> >> > I try next?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> > Victor
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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