Re: changed network setting, can't Log On
From: Pegasus \(MVP\) (I.can_at_fly.com)
Date: 06/01/04
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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:08:40 +1000
"John" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> >> >"John" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> >> >> Attempting to use a shared printer on a local area
> >> >> network I changed the network configuration to "One
> >> that
> >> >> does not use domains". After rebooting, the user
> name
> >> and
> >> >> password return the message "The system could not
> log
> >> you
> >> >> on. Make sure your User name and domain are correct,
> >> then
> >> >> type your password again." There is no way to
> specify a
> >> >> domain. A MS support person said I may need to
> include
> >> >> the computer name or domain name befor the username
> >> >> seperated by a forward slash, I do not know either.
> I
> >> >> also do not know the administrator password. Is
> >> >> there anyway to change it back to using domains so
> the
> >> >> user name and password will work again? Or do I
> need to
> >> >> logon as the administrator after reseting the
> password?
> >> >> Any help is very appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >If you disconnected your machine from the domain then
> >> >you have to ask your network administrator to re-
> register
> >> >your machine on the domain, or to give you a local
> >> >account/password.
> >> >
> >> Thanks for the response! I do not have a network
> >> administrator. The machine is no longer part of a
> network
> >> that uses domains. Is there no way to log on as my user
> >> anymore after making this change? If not, any way I can
> >> access my files?
> >
> >If you acquired your machine legally then you simply ask
> >the organisation where it came from to give you the
> required
> >details. It's the same with a car: When you buy one then
> >you always get the keys.
> >
> >You can access your files without a password by
> temporarily
> >installing the hard disk as a slave disk in some other
> Win2000
> >PC, then copying them to a suitable backup medium.
> >
> >
> Pegasus, thanks. I understand your legal/security
> concerns. The woman who "owns" the laptop has left the
> company that supplied it to her. I don't know how
> succesful we will be at aquiring those details. I
> unfortunatley am now on the hook to try and get her re-
> aquainted with her files.
>
> It is a laptop (of course) and installing the HD as a
> slave in another Win2000 machine is beyond my resources.
>
> So what can I do? Can I upgrade to XP and have access to
> the files? Can I reset the admin password using third-
> party tools, or will I still need to know the computer
> name/domain details. Is it possible to make the drive a
> slave on another Win2000 pc given its a laptop drive?
>
> Hope you can point me a way out of this jam, thanks.
Normally you can upgrade to WinXP without file loss.
However, I have heard of cases where people lost the
lot. If the owner followed standard IT practice then this
would not matter, because standard IT practice says
that all important files must be backed up to an
independent medium on a weekly basis. Most users
reject this advice until they get a strong incentive to
think again. It's called "total loss of all files".
About third-party password tools: The answer was there
all along in the post titled "Locked-out!" where you
piggy-backed your own query. In there I wrote:
Reset the password with this boot disk:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html
After you have fininised your job, and if you have any
influence on the owner of the machine then urge her to
plan ahead and do this:
- Never buy a PC or a laptop without all the media (ie.g. CDs)
the account names and their passwords.
- Create a second admin account now and lock away
the password so that she never gets into this mess
again.
- Back up all her important files to an independent
medium every week.
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