Re: NIC Replacement in Windows 2000?
From: S.P. Goodman (earthlight2k_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/06/04
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:11:17 +0100
Aha, I put the two SET and START commands in a batch file for the 2nd
machine, which, being my wife's (or rather not being mine) has not been the
subject of multiple experiments in the past. When the TCP/IP and old NIC
were uninstalled, and the NIC replaced, upon startup Windows persisted in
labelling the card "#2" despite no other NIC being present. I did the batch
file and chose View Hidden Devices and lo! There was a shadow NIC with the
original name. I uninstalled IT and restarted, funnily enough TCP/IP was
re-added to the new connectoid without my asking it to -- and after IP setup
and another reboot, all was well.
We've got two copies of XP coming next week. No, I'm not thinking of
touching SP2 with a ten-foot cattle prod as yet. :)
"S.P. Goodman" <earthlight2k@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2sifbuF1kqknkU1@uni-berlin.de...
> I'd tried this via View.Show Hidden Devices. Is this not the same thing?
>
> When I did so, nonetheless, all I saw was the NIC, and the following:
> Direct Parallel
> WAN Miniport (IP)
> WAN Miniport (L2TP)
> WAN Miniport (PPTP)
>
> I had previously used DM to remove/uninstall the previous NIC but still
had
> absolutely no satisfaction with any of the methods to that point. When I
> changed the slot the new NIC was in, it was now called the same with "#2"
> appended at the end, and refused to allow me to assign the original IP
> address, saying that it was in use by the old NIC that I thought Windows
had
> uninstalled.
>
> When I uninstalled the new NIC and replaced the old one, it popped up
> despite being a Pre-PnP card and took on the original IP immediately, as
> well as the other settings I'd uninstalled and/or removed. It was now
more
> than evident that settings left over from the previous card, which was in
> place when Win 2000 was scratch-installed (and that was the only time a
> complete install had been done), were still somewhere and being used
despite
> my removal of them via conventional means.
>
> I thought to myself at the time, "By this time I could have built the PC
> from scratch hardware AND software-wise."
>
> And so I backed up my account settings, messages, etc., uninstalled the
old
> card, shutdown, plugged in the new NIC, powered-up, and wiped the install,
> doing a clean install from relative scratch via the CD.
>
> Without anything beyond the regular I was online in an hour, and happily
> downloading updates through a 100Mb/s card in much less time than I'd
spent
> trying to troubleshoot the problem before.
>
> The 3c509 Combo was around well before PnP was - and it was a major item
in
> configurations for some time. Perhaps non-PnP cards such as this are more
> difficult to absolutely remove, as opposed to PnP-compliant ones. Of
course
> I have no validation of such an idea beyond my experience here.
> Unfortunately I have to upgrade the NIC in the other PC here - and hope
it's
> better-behaved than my own.
>
> By theory though, it should be as simple as:
>
> 1. Network & Dial-up Connections:
> Uninstall TCP/IP as protocol from Connectoid;
> 2. Device Manager:
> Uninstall the old NIC;
> 3. Device Manager (View Hidden):
> Check for other NIC signatures and remove?
> 4. Shutdown
> 5. Install new NIC (probably in different slot than old NIC?);
> 6. Boot and startup;
> 7. Point to drivers when Add New Hardware wizard runs;
> 8. Install TCP/IP and assign IP values;
> 9. Restart.
>
> Right? Thanks.
>
>
> "Dave Patrick" <mail@Nospam.DSPatrick.com> wrote in message
> news:%23xrua20qEHA.2732@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Yes, you can. To display hidden devices, non-Plug and Play devices, and
> > devices not attached to the computer (commonly known as "ghosted" or
> > "phantom" devices) From a command prompt;
> >
> > set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
> >
> > then also from the command prompt;
> > start devmgmt.msc
> >
> > Then, use Device Manager to remove or reconfigure these devices. Do not
> edit
> > the registry.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >
> > "S.P. Goodman" wrote:
> > | So do you recommend the removal of Hidden Devices in DevMgr after
> > | uninstalling and unplugging the card?
> >
> >
>
>
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