Re: can't override screen saver policy

What instructions did Microsoft give you to follow? Can you share with
everyone on what you did you resolve this issue. I am facing the same issue
and any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks!


"lee.james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> Yes, I figured out that using loopback processing was the answer (Ok, I
> ended up calling MS support). I created a seperate OU that had loopback
> processing applied and put the particular systems in the OU. That now
> works fine.
>
> However, what I can't understand and MS can't seem to explain, is why I
> can't enable loopback processing on the local policy of the problem
> systems instead of having to do it at the OU level?
>
> MS keeps saying the order or precedence is the reason, but as I
> understand it, the local gets 'read' first, tells that it's using
> loopback processing - which should then tell it to ignore the user
> settings at the site level, domain level, ou level etc.
>
> J.
>
> Bruce Sanderson wrote:
> > Settings in the User Configuration part of a GPO always apply to User
> > Accounts, not Computer Accounts, so any User Configuration settings you want
> > to apply must be in a GPO that applies to the User's Account, not the
> > Computer's Account.
> >
> > If you acutally want some User Configuration settings applied ONLY when
> > users log on to specific computers, then enable Loopback processing in a GPO
> > that is applied to the OU containing those Computer Accounts and put the
> > User Configuration settings into a GPO that applies to that OU. See
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/231287/. Not that the User Configuration
> > part of a GPO processed by the Loopback feature are still applied to User
> > Accounts, but only when a (any) user logs on at the computers that GPO
> > applies to. Loopback processing does not actaully convert User
> > Configuration settings to Computer Configuration settings.
> >
> > The best way (IMHO) is to establish an OU hierarchy/structure that reflects
> > how you want to manage things and how you want to apply GPOs. One of the
> > major features of AD is the ability to nest OUs and to change the OU
> > structure easily. Settings in GPOs applied at the lower levels in the
> > hierarchy (e.g. NeedScreenSaver in the example below) will take precedence
> > over corresponding settings applied higher in the heirarchy. Take advantage
> > of this feature to make your life easier. In particular, have seperate OU
> > hierarchies for User and Computer Accounts (as opposed to having the
> > computer accounts in an OU nested inside the Users OU).
> >
> > E.g.
> > Domain
> > Computers - apply GPO that is to be applied to all computers here
> > NeedScreenSaver - apply GPO with Loopback and Screen Saver settings
> > here
> > Users - apply GPO that is to be applied to all users here
> > SpecialUsers - apply GPO that has settings specific to only some
> > (special) users
> > as opposed to
> > Domain
> > Computers
> > Users
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
> > http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
> >
> > It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
> >
> >
> >
> > "dcompton" <dcompton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:A1384096-7547-42B2-BEF0-BF17423A72F7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >I am having the same issue and the original post. I have tried adding the
> > > setting at the OU level which is below the domain level, so that policy
> > > should be applied. However, it seems that this setting is a user setting.
> > > The users are in the user OU which is above the target computer OU. So
> > > they
> > > don't get this policy setting. I have also tried setting the permissions
> > > to
> > > allow access to only the specific machine accounts and that has no effect.
> > > It only seems to care about the user portion.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any ideas?
> > >
> > > DC
> > >
> > > "Ken B" wrote:
> > >
> > >> You're right in that the local policy gets applied first. The only thing
> > >> is
> > >> later settings in the L, S, D, Ou order 'win'. So your domain policy won
> > >> out over the local policy... and the domain wins.
> > >>
> > >> If you had a different policy on the OU, that one would win, provided
> > >> your
> > >> domain policy did not have "No override" or "Enforced" checked off.
> > >>
> > >> Easiest way I would think to get those computers to not apply the
> > >> screensaver policy would be to create a security group, add the computers
> > >> to
> > >> that group, and then give that group Deny permission to Read & Apply the
> > >> policy on the security tab of the policy itself. This way you can
> > >> add/remove/edit the list at your own whim, and you'll have a listing of
> > >> all
> > >> the computers that won't have that policy apply to them.
> > >>
> > >> HTH
> > >>
> > >> Ken
> > >>
> > >> <lee.james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:1121956401.102170.315600@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > We've enabled a mandatory screen saver policy and applied it at the
> > >> > domain level - it works as it's supposed to.
> > >> >
> > >> > There's a handful of machines we don't want this policy to apply to,
> > >> > and we don't want to muck around with GP permissions, or create
> > >> > exception OU's, play with GP deny settings etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > We should just be able to specify a local policy to override (as local
> > >> > is first in order or precedence).
> > >> >
> > >> > However we can't get it to work. Clients are XP SP2.
> > >> >
> > >> > I specify the settings locally, log off and on, tried rebooting as well
> > >> > - but when I check the registry key
> > >> > HKCU\SW\policies\Microsoft\Windows\Control Panel\Desktop it keeps
> > >> > showing the entries from the domain policy.
> > >> >
> > >> > What gives?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
>
>
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