Re: Public non MSI applications. ZAP files

From: Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP] (cwshultz_at_mvps.org)
Date: 09/25/04


Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:25:43 -0400

Ihab,

I understand that the IT department is not the only one involved in the
decisions. You usually have a Financial person and an Operations person
involved. It is typically the job of the IT Director ( or whatever the
title is.... ) to present all the facts for the Financial and Operations
people in such a way that they understand the needs and the solutions and to
recommend a solution.

If the company is 'super cheap' then you have a decision to make. If other
people are involved ( the Delegated Commercial Administrator ) that possibly
should not be ( why is this person a 'Delegated Commercial Administrator'
and what does that really mean? ) then your decision should be very clear.

I would have a very difficult time working someplace where the secretary is
able to dictate policy ( The "oh, that color is pretty! Let's do that!" or
the "I do not want to have to wait for anything. It should just always
work!" syndrome ). I have seen this before and it is usually very
indicative of much larger problems.

Sounds like you are in a tough situation.

Hope that you're able to find an acceptable solution.

Cary

"Ihab" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1ee601c4a2fb$e689fb70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Cary,
> Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, when working
> in IT related business, you are not the only one involved
> in decision making. In my situation, I am surrounded by
> quasi-IT personnel that unfortunately command the
> situation.
>
> When I first used a logon script, everything was going
> perfet for 3 days, untill I saw the Delegated Commercial
> Administrator (of a company that has more than 20,000
> dependents, and for privacy I won't write it's name)
> behind my shoulders, a bit upset of that black window
> (the command prompt when a vbs script is executed)
> appearing on his computer everytime he logs on!
> Of course, I could hide this screen or any application
> during the logon progress, but I didn't think that
> the DCA would react like this, and that EVERYTHING of this
> kind should be prohibited!
>
> When working in IT, ignorant and arrogant HR, Directors
> and responsibles are those who command! So you have got
> to re-arrange your plans!
>
> I wish that problems in IT are only those related to IT
> or just like the fancy IT book-related questions are!
>
> No remote admin programs are allowed because they do not
> want to spend even a cent to buy the cheapest program. The
> employment situation here is going bad, many people were
> just fired because of company financial capacities. Besides
> in the past DameWare was used for a while (that wasn't
> even a registered version!), and then a tech-person
> finished up in remote controlling a PC without the
> authorization of the user who was actually one of the admin
> board of this company!
>
> In my own company, for examle, we had to remove our SMS
> because of the continuous complains of directors of several
> other departments!
>
> Ihab
>



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