Re: GPOs not being applied

From: Derek Melber [MVP] (derekm_at_braincore.net)
Date: 05/12/04


Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:20:02 -0700

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-- 
Derek Melber
BrainCore.Net
derekm@braincore.net
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:bf5201c4382c$3891eb20$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> I tried your suggestion.  The user policy was applied to
> Joe, but the computer policy was not applied to
> the "problem" computer.
>
> I used ntdsutil to check for duplicate SIDs and found
> none.  I used nbtstat -n and checked WINS to look for
> duplicate names and found none.  And nslookup verifies the
> srv records... hmm... :-(
>
> What logging are you talking about?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >how about the user side of things? Try this:
> >
> >1) create a new OU
> >2) create a new user named Joe in the OU
> >3) create a new GPO and link it to the new OU
> >4) configure the GPO to remove the run command
> >5) log in as Joe to the "problem" computer
> >6) if the run command is removed, then move the "problem
> computer to the new
> >OU
> >7) configure the GPO linked to the new OU to now "not
> show the last logged
> >in user" (this is a computer configuration)
> >8) restart the "problem" computer and log on as Joe
> >9) logoff as Joe and now when you hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, there
> should not be any
> >name in the username box.
> >
> >if this works, then there is something odd happening with
> the original OU.
> >If this fails for Joe and the "problem" computer, then
> the computer is
> >having trouble with the domain in some way, most likely a
> SID or name
> >duplication. If it is a SID problem, my guess is that a
> tool like ghost or
> >drive image was used on this computer, or another
> computer on the network.
> >If Joe works and the "problem" computer still fails, I
> would still lean
> >towards the SID, name duplication, or DNS area.
> >
> >If all of this fails, I would turn on verbose logging and
> see what I can
> >find in the logs. If you need help tracking those down, I
> can help you with
> >those settings.
> >
> >Let me know.
> >
> >-- 
> >Derek Melber
> >BrainCore.Net
> >derekm@braincore.net
> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:b15e01c4374d$ceab9fa0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Derek,
> >>
> >> Thanks a bunch for your help!!!
> >>
> >> I checked if it were a DNS problem.  I ran netdiag in
> >> verbose, I double-checked that all SRV records were
> >> present and I ran nslookup on the SRV records from the
> >> problem server, and all tests passed.  I'm more than
> >> confused now. If I am missing some tests, please let me
> >> know.
> >>
> >> Let me recap....All DNS configurations are correct
> (client
> >> side and server side), the problem server is unique (no
> >> duplicate SIDs, IPAs or name).  There are no Deny ACLs
> and
> >> authenticated users have Read and Apply GP permissions
> on
> >> the GPO.  No LMHOSTS nor HOSTS file is being used.  The
> >> GPO is not being blocked.  All other servers in
> >> the 'Computer' container have no problem.
> >>
> >> When the problem server is a member of a workgroup, the
> >> local GPO is applied.  However, once I join the domain,
> I
> >> get Userenv 1000 errors:
> >> Source: Userenv
> >> Category: None
> >> Event ID: 1000
> >> User: NT Authority\System
> >> Description:
> >> Windows cannot query for the list of Group Policy
> >> objects.  A message that describes the reason for
> >> this was previously logged by this computer.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something here? :-(
> >>
> >> You would think that it is a DNS issue, but oddly enough
> >> the problem server can resolve the SRV records.
> >>
> >> This one is turning out to be a real stumper.  Any other
> >> ideas/suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks again for the help!
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >that sure sounds like a DNS issue to me.
> >> >
> >> >-- 
> >> >Derek Melber
> >> >BrainCore.Net
> >> >derekm@braincore.net
> >> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:908501c43340$7a8952c0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> I have removed the server from the domain and
> rejoined
> >> it
> >> >> without any errors.
> >> >>
> >> >> When the server was in a workgroup, the local policy
> was
> >> >> applied.  However, once I joined the domain Userenv
> 1000
> >> >> errors started appearing again.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the help!
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >see if there is a duplicate name, IP, or SID on the
> >> >> network
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-- 
> >> >> >Derek Melber
> >> >> >BrainCore.Net
> >> >> >derekm@braincore.net
> >> >> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >> >> >news:786201c4310f$c0dac610$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> This just keeps getting better...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To answer Ken, there are no hosts and lmhosts
> file;
> >> good
> >> >> >> thought though!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To answer Derek, I have not seen any Deny's in the
> >> ACLs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> An interesting developement.  Friday night, the
> >> >> >> description changed for the Userenv 1000 error to
> >> >> >> read: "Windows cannot determine the user or
> computer
> >> >> name.
> >> >> >> Return value (1326)."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So, I removed the server from the domain, and
> >> rejoined
> >> >> >> it.  Once I rebooted after the rejoin, EventID
> 1704
> >> >> >> (SceCli) was logged telling me the security
> policy in
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Group Policy objects are applied successfully. :-0
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But wait, 7 minutes later, I am back to square one
> >> with
> >> >> >> Userenv 1000 again telling me ...Windows cannot
> >> query...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Arrrgh!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >do you have any denies on the ACL?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >-- 
> >> >> >> >Derek Melber
> >> >> >> >BrainCore.Net
> >> >> >> >derekm@braincore.net
> >> >> >> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >> >> >news:6a2901c42ebf$e3306f50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> That's what makes it all the more
> interesting...
> >> This
> >> >> >> >> server points to the exact same DNS as the
> others.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> For kicks, I even explicity gave the computer
> >> object
> >> >> >> read
> >> >> >> >> and apply group policy 'allow' rights on the
> GPO
> >> and
> >> >> >> >> nothing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> :-(
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >This almost sounds like a DNS issue... is this
> >> >> server
> >> >> >> set
> >> >> >> >> >up the same as the others, with regards to
> DNS?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >>I have a Win2K Ad Srvr (w/SP4) that does not
> >> apply
> >> >> any
> >> >> >> >> >GPO
> >> >> >> >> >>settings, local and/or domain level.  The
> >> computer
> >> >> >> >> >object
> >> >> >> >> >>resides in the built-in 'computers'
> container,
> >> so
> >> >> only
> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >>local and Default-Domain Policies should
> apply.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>When I run the
> >> >> >> >> >>'secedit /refreshpolicy
> machine_policy /enforce'
> >> >> >> >> >command,
> >> >> >> >> >>I get an SRV 2000 error in the event log:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Source: Userenv
> >> >> >> >> >>Category: None
> >> >> >> >> >>Event ID: 1000
> >> >> >> >> >>User: NT Authority\System
> >> >> >> >> >>Description:
> >> >> >> >> >>Windows cannot query for the list of Group
> >> Policy
> >> >> >> >> >>objects.  A message that describes the reason
> >> for
> >> >> this
> >> >> >> >> >was
> >> >> >> >> >>previously logged by this computer.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>It seems that the server has an old version
> of
> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >>policies (having ran gpresult), but the new
> >> >> versions
> >> >> >> >> >never
> >> >> >> >> >>get applied.  I have checked and the 'disable
> >> >> >> >> >>computer/user configuration settings' are
> >> cleared.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>I have 20 others servers in the 'computers'
> >> >> container
> >> >> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >> >>only this one gives me this problem, so I
> >> suspect
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >>something local.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>I am at my wits end.  Please help :-0
> >> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >


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