Re: Winnt\sys32\config\systemCED Error

HI John:

I will most likely get the OS CD today and then go over to where the computer is tomorrow. I will try and make the setup disks just to have as a backup before I go.

If I have any other questions I will post later today accordingly. I can't begin to express my thanks to you for all your detailed info. No doubt that you have worked on Dell computers before with Win2000 and this same problem.

Again thanks and I will keep you posted as to status and/or outcome.

Thanks again.....

ColTom2
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23q936La7GHA.4276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On all the Dell pc's that I have seen when the computer boots you see a
message telling you which key to press to enter the Setup Program
(BIOS). The documentation here says to press F2.
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4300/syssetup.htm#1097056
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4300/

I'm quite sure that the CD she has is a complete Windows 2000 operating
system cd, it works the same as a genuine Microsoft cd. If it can't
boot either the cd is defective (scratched, dirty) or the cd-rom drive
is defective, or the BIOS is not set properly.

As I said earlier, I have often found the quality of the repair to be
less than acceptable or desirable when the replacement hives are really
old. Also, I have seen occasions where nothing could be done on the
drive without first running a chkdsk /r . That is a command that I
don't like to run unless all avenues have been exhausted. If you can't
get the installation up to an acceptable condition an in-place upgrade
is the next thing to do:

How to perform an in-place upgrade of Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292175/

You will have to reinstall the latest service pack and hotfixes. DO NOT
connect the unpatched computer to the internet without a properly
configured firewall! As installed Windows 2000 is EXTREMELY vulnerable
to worms and virus if not properly protected. These are what I would
consider as bare minimum on a new Windows 2000 installation:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp4/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/rollup.mspx

The security rollup package contains the critical MS03-049 patch.

John

ColTom2 wrote:

> *Hi John:*
> **
> * She told me that she has the original Win2000 OS CD that came with
> the computer some years ago, so I assume it is not a Service Pack CD.*
> **
> * You would think that Dell would have gone into the BIOS and set it up
> to boot on CD, but I have no idea as to what transpired. Dell apparently
> got it to do something, but she said the same error about booting came
> back etc. I hate trying to work through someone else like this and I
> apologize for doing so. Her husband is a close friend of mine is the
> only reason. If they were closer I would have already gone to their
> house and checked things out myself, which I most likely will do tomorrow.*
> **
> * You would not know by chance how to access the BIOS on a Dell 4300
> would you? I assume F2, F12, or Delete. but really do not know. I need
> to know the BIOS settings before I try anything as you well know. Her
> husband can meet me in Savannah tomorrow with the OS CD and I thought
> that I would try and make the setup disks from it and then later go to
> their house, check the BIOS and go from there.*
> **
> * One thing that worries me is that she might have corrupted her
> Registry hive beyond repair, so if you have any comments about this
> please forward.*
> **
> * Again thanks so much for all you help...*
>
> "John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote in message news:uhzQqaZ7GHA.3452@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Did she go in the BIOS and set the computer to boot to the CD first?
> The Windows 2000 cd is bootable and the computer should boot from it,
> but you have to change the boot order in the BIOS and have the cd as
> the
> first booting device. Only if she can't boot with the cd should she
> need the floppies in lieu of the cd. Are you sure she has a Window
> 2000
> Operating System (or reinstallation) cd? Maybe she is trying to use a
> service pack cd instead.
>
> John
>
> ColTom2 wrote:
>
> > *Hi John:*
> > **
> > * She has tried inserting the Windows 2000CD and accessing the
> Recovery
> > Console per telecon apparently with Dell, but the computer does
> nothing
> > when she inserts the CD. This was why I thought possibly of using
> setup
> > disks etc. She just cannot get it to boot up even with the CD.*
> > **
> > * Do you think setup disks would work even if the Win2000 CD
> will not?*
> > **
> > *Thanks*
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > wrote in message news:u09mdMZ7GHA.3284@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > If she has a Windows 2000 cd she doesn't need to create a set
> of floppy
> > disks, forget about them as she can boot the computer with
> the Windows
> > 2000 cd then access the Recovery Console and attempt the
> repairs as per
> > KB269075. For information on the RC see:
> >
> > Description of the Windows 2000 Recovery Console
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/229716
> >
> > John
> >
> > ColTom2 wrote:
> >
> > > *Hi John:*
> > > **
> > > * I apologize for the misinformation, as she has a
> Windows 2000 Pro
> > > Edition Operating System CD and not a Recovery CD. Sorry
> about this.*
> > > **
> > > * I have read your referenced
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/197063 article on how to
> create a
> > set
> > > of setup disks, but must admit I am not at all sure of the
> procedure
> > > even after reading it. It never mentions when or how to insert
> > the blank
> > > floppy etc in making these disks. *
> > > **
> > > * I have a Sony desktop Windows MCE computer so could you
> please
> > > explain in detail somewhat how I would go about creating
> these disks
> > > from her Win2000 CD using my Sony and also accessing the
> Recovery
> > > Console. A step by step explanation would be most helpful.*
> > > **
> > > * I really appreciate your effort in this matter.*
> > > **
> > > *ColTom2*
> > > * *
> > >
> > > "John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > wrote in message
> news:OwW6aaY7GHA.2384@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > She will have to make the disks with another computer,
> also with
> > > recovery disk that she has there is no saying what is
> or is
> > not on
> > > there
> > > so I can't say if she can make a set of startup
> diskettes or
> > start the
> > > Recovery Console with it.
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/197063
> > > Maybe
> > > the recovery disk can boot the Recovery Console, or
> she could
> > just
> > > borrow a Windows 2000 cd for the repairs.
> > >
> > > "Mount the disk", put it in another computer as a second
> > (data) disk
> > > and
> > > do the instruction in KB269075 from the working Windows
> > installation
> > > instead of the Recovery Console. If her Windows 2000
> is on a
> > FAT32
> > > partition she can do it from a Windows 9x computer, if her
> > Windows 2000
> > > is on an NTFS partition she will have to mount it in a
> > Windows 2000/XP
> > > machine because Windows 9x cannot read NTFS. An NT4
> computer
> > can also
> > > do it providing that it has later service pack to read
> newer
> > Windows
> > > 2000 NTFS version. In a case like that the working
> Windows
> > is like a
> > > "Super" Recovery Console with all the bells and whistles.
> > Another way
> > > to do the repairs is via a parallel installation on her
> > computer, a
> > > Windows installation on another partition or disk.
> > >
> > > I should mention that the outcome of the repair depends
> > greatly on how
> > > old the registry hive that she will be using (to
> replace the
> > corrupt
> > > one) is. If she never or rarely made Emergency Repair
> Disks
> > the hives
> > > may be so old that the outcome might be completely
> > unsatisfactory, but
> > > she will be able to at least salvage her data files. One
> > thing about
> > > working from a parallel installation is that you can
> see the
> > damaged
> > > hive and see how big it is. If the problem is one of size
> > you can try
> > > to reduce the size instead of switching it for an old
> hive.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > ColTom2 wrote:
> > >
> > > > *Hi John:*
> > > > **
> > > > * All she has is a Recovery CD so how would she
> ever make
> > a set of
> > > > Startup Diskettes when the computer will not boot?
> Also I
> > do not
> > > follow
> > > > your last comments about mounting her disk in another
> > Win2000/XP
> > > computer?*
> > > > **
> > > > *Thanks*
> > > >
> > > > "John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > > wrote in message
> > news:%23NkV6aX7GHA.4996@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Error Message: Windows Could Not Start Because the
> > Following
> > > File Is
> > > > Missing or Corrupt:
> \Winnt\System32\Config\Systemced
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/269075/EN-US/
> > > >
> > > > You will have to borrow a Windows 2000 CD or
> make a set of
> > > Startup
> > > > Diskettes to use the Recovery Console. Or you can
> > mount her
> > > disk in
> > > > another Windows 2000/XP machine to do the repair.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > ColTom2 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > *Hi:*
> > > > > **
> > > > > * I have a friend who has a Dell 4300 running
> > Windows 2000
> > > Pro and
> > > > > cannot get her computer to boot. She has
> even tried
> > > reformatting,
> > > > but
> > > > > now gets this Winnt\sys32\config\systemCED error
> > and will
> > > not go
> > > > > further. The entire system is locked up at
> this point.*
> > > > > **
> > > > > * Sorry to say she does not have a bootable
> floppy
> > or CD
> > > disk.*
> > > > > **
> > > > > * Any help and/or recommendations will
> greatly be
> > > appreciated.*
> > > > > **
> > > > > *Thanks,*
> > > > > **
> > > > > *ColTom2*

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