Re: Last ditch repair of crashing W2K box...ideas?!?!?!
- From: intrepid_dw@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 10 Aug 2005 05:56:04 -0700
Steve:
Thanks so much for your reply. I guess I'm confident to the extent
possible that we don't have a power supply issue (replaced with
brand-new unit), and the temp monitors from the BIOS indicate proper
CPU temps.
FWIW, I did attempt the parallel install of W2K, and while the CD-based
portion of the install itself was successful, the machine still hung in
precisely the same manner when attempting to boot into that new
installation. It surely sounds like your answer is as reasonable as any
other.
Although I really don't believe it will help, I'm going to re-flash the
BIOS and see if that makes any difference, and then - last gasp - try
an actual reformat/reinstall. I hold out virtually no hope that either
solution will prevail (agree that I have MB issues), but I guess I'm
just being stubborn...
-David
Steve Duff [MVP] wrote:
> If you're sure it isn't a thermal or power supply issue I'm afraid your
> motherboard's power regulation is likely the problem. This is common
> as boards age, especially the early Athlon boards which had some
> really (for that time) astonishing power requirements. The symptoms you
> describe match up with what we typically see for this.
>
> Replacing or repairing a board of this vintage isn't usually
> worth the trouble, though it can be done.
>
> Assuming this is an IDE-based machine, I'd change the drivers
> to "Standard dual IDE/ATAPI" and just change out the board,
> CPU and memory and call it an "upgrade"
>
> Steve Duff, MCSE, MVP
> Ergodic Systems, Inc.
>
> <intrepid_dw@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1123636220.660934.191530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > All:
> >
> > I have a home-brew box built about five years ago to run Windows 2000.
> > It has served primarily as a host for a printer and a development
> > database, and in that time has run flawlessly...well, until the last
> > very few months.
> >
> > During that time, the box started - perhaps once every two weeks -
> > crashing. It would always immediately reboot normally. Unfortunately, I
> > never took the time to thoroughly diagnose it.
> >
> > Over time, the crashes became more frequent, and now the machine will
> > not start up Windows 2000 entirely. It will get to the W2K startup GUI
> > screen (with the "Starting Up" progress bar,) but will usually hang or
> > (sometimes) crash (BSOD) just as it begins to display the startup login
> > dialog. The crashes have ranged from IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL to
> > UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP and have occurred in NTOSKRNL.EXE, HAL.DLL,
> > and ATAPI.SYS (to name just a few).
> >
> > The machine will not boot into safe mode - hangs at the login dialog or
> > during the "Windows is starting..." dialog, but then freeze.
> >
> > I have been able to start the machine from the CD-ROM and the W2K
> > installation CD into the Recovery Console - which always works (done
> > several times) - and ran a chkdsk which found no problems. I ran a Fast
> > Repair which, unfortunately, froze at 6 seconds before reboot. Upon
> > rebooting, W2K still froze as it had been.
> >
> > Hardware: This is a VA-503A motherboard with an AMD k6-2 CPU @ 500Mhz
> > with (originally) 128MB of PC100 SDRAM, a generic soundcard, and a
> > generic 10/100 NIC, a Stealth 540 AGP video card (32MB), and a 13GB
> > Quantum Bigfoot hard drive.
> >
> > The hardware steps I've taken so far include the following:
> > * Removal of NIC
> > * Removal of sound card
> > * Removal/swap of memory with known good memory
> > * Change of video card
> > * Replacement of power supply
> > * Reset of BIOS to defaults
> > * Move of boot drive to different cable
> > * Move of boot drive to different IDE interface
> > * Elimination of all hardware but hard drive and CD-ROM drive
> >
> > System BIOS indicates the CPU temp is normal, and aside from the one
> > freeze in character mode during the emergency repair, all
> > character-mode operations have worked normally. ONly the transition
> > from "Starting Up" to "show the logon dialog" does the system
> > crash/hang hard.
> >
> > I'm *this* close to a fresh format and restart install, but part of me
> > is concerned that the motherboard may, in fact, be failing, as I
> > suspect the crash is happening when the OS is trying to allocate
> > resources from the system, but the system is balking. If that's the
> > case, obviously a system rebuild won't do any good. For now, I'm going
> > to give a parallel installation of W2K a try and see what happens.
> >
> > I've run out of ideas to try on this problem, and I'd greatly
> > appreciate any ideas that I may have overlooked or not considered
> > properly. I realize this is an older box, and I'll readily acknowledge
> > that it isn't the most critical in the world, but there is some
> > information on it I'd like to recover if possible (but its not the end
> > of the world if I don't).
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your kind suggestions and assistance.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > p.s. Please reply to this group; email listed in this message is no
> > longer active.
> >
.
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