Re: Can't get Win2K to detect CD/RW drive...

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Jim, have you also tried it with the jumper settings on the drives set to
Master and/or Slave, as appropriate to their position on the cable, rather
than just Cable Select? Some drives won't handle Cable Select correctly
sometimes in my experience.

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Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

"ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:42F977F1.9B076238@xxxxxxx
> Jim,
>
> I originally had:
>
> IDE0: Master: hard drive
> IDE1: Master: DVD (cable select)
> Slave: CDRW (cable select)
>
> I have 80-wire cables on both IDE0 and IDE1.
>
> I just tried switching so that I had:
>
> IDE1: Master: CDRW (cable select)
> Slave: DVD (cable select)
>
> But Windows can still only see the DVD drive. In other words, it
> doesn't matter whether the DVD is master or slave, Windows sees it,
> but will not see the CDRW drive.
>
> If I connect only the CDRW on IDE1, Windows sees it.
>
> I haven't tried either the DVD or CDRW on IDE0 yet (the cable won't
> reach).
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY
>> correctly, you currently have the DVD installed as master and the RW
>> as slave on the secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not on your
>> added IDE controller card). Is that correct?
>>
>> If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would like to
>> check the jumpering and the cabling. There are three possible
>> situations to which a drive can be set: Master, Slave, or Cable
>> Select. This is usually accomplished by either microswitches or,
>> more often, by setting a jumper on the drive. Note that on normal
>> IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the first (middle of the
>> cable) connector closest to the motherboard, while the Slave goes on
>> the end connector.
>>
>> Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way - DVD
>> on the Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector - and that
>> both devices are properly jumpered - DVD as Master and RW as Slave
>> or Cable Select. (Alternatively, you might want to try reversing
>> them and jumper the RW as the Master on the Master connector and the
>> DVD as the Slave on the end connector unless your installation
>> directions specify that the DVD has to be a Master. Many
>> motherboards will only boot from a CD if it's the master device on
>> the secondary channel, and it's often useful to be able to boot from
>> the same drive where you created a CD for reasons I won't go into
>> here.) In either case, let's be sure that things are set up
>> correctly physically and eliminate that as a problem.
>>
>> What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE
>> channel, BTW? Two HD's?
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@xxxxxxx
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can
>>> only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I
>>> was testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD
>>> and CDRW then???
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> ohaya wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
>>>> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
>>>>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional
>>>>> things besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest
>>>>> running both it and the FilterFixer package, link to directions
>>>>> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt,
>>>>> direct download here:
>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe, in
>>>>> order, maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@xxxxxxx
>>>>>> Jim (Byrd),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
>>>>>> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I
>>>>>> noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with
>>>>>> Upper and Lower Filter already?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008
>>>>>>> It may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined
>>>>>>> there to delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
>>>>>>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as
>>>>>>> well): http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
>>>>>>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
>>>>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there
>>>>>>> aren't usually, BTW).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
>>>>>>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe
>>>>>>> Instructions here:
>>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
>>>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW
>>>>>>>> drive. The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave,
>>>>>>>> respectively, on my 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only
>>>>>>>> detects the DVD drive, and can't see the CDRW drive at all.
>>>>>>>> Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in Device Manager.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I
>>>>>>>> can use the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW
>>>>>>>> drive is ok, but I was wondering if anyone might have an idea
>>>>>>>> of how I might get both drives to work without the extra
>>>>>>>> controller card?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and
>>>>>>>> rebooting, but that didn't change anything. I've also tried
>>>>>>>> adding the "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it
>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jim


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