Re: Can't get Win2K to detect CD/RW drive...

Jim,

Sorry. I forgot to mention that. I think that was the 1st thing I
tried, which I was using a 40 wire cable. When I switched to the 80
wire cable (to try to get this working), I put both drives on cable
select...

BTW, I mentioned that both drives appear in Safemode. Is there a hint
there? What's different when in Safemode?

Jim



Jim Byrd wrote:
>
> Jim, have you also tried it with the jumper settings on the drives set to
> Master and/or Slave, as appropriate to their position on the cable, rather
> than just Cable Select? Some drives won't handle Cable Select correctly
> sometimes in my experience.
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:42F977F1.9B076238@xxxxxxx
> > Jim,
> >
> > I originally had:
> >
> > IDE0: Master: hard drive
> > IDE1: Master: DVD (cable select)
> > Slave: CDRW (cable select)
> >
> > I have 80-wire cables on both IDE0 and IDE1.
> >
> > I just tried switching so that I had:
> >
> > IDE1: Master: CDRW (cable select)
> > Slave: DVD (cable select)
> >
> > But Windows can still only see the DVD drive. In other words, it
> > doesn't matter whether the DVD is master or slave, Windows sees it,
> > but will not see the CDRW drive.
> >
> > If I connect only the CDRW on IDE1, Windows sees it.
> >
> > I haven't tried either the DVD or CDRW on IDE0 yet (the cable won't
> > reach).
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim - I think we need to step back a little here. IIUY
> >> correctly, you currently have the DVD installed as master and the RW
> >> as slave on the secondary IDE channel (when the RW's not on your
> >> added IDE controller card). Is that correct?
> >>
> >> If so, since it's the RW that won't enumerate, then I would like to
> >> check the jumpering and the cabling. There are three possible
> >> situations to which a drive can be set: Master, Slave, or Cable
> >> Select. This is usually accomplished by either microswitches or,
> >> more often, by setting a jumper on the drive. Note that on normal
> >> IDE cabling, the Master device goes on the first (middle of the
> >> cable) connector closest to the motherboard, while the Slave goes on
> >> the end connector.
> >>
> >> Please check that they are both cabled AND jumpered this way - DVD
> >> on the Master connector, and RW on the Slave connector - and that
> >> both devices are properly jumpered - DVD as Master and RW as Slave
> >> or Cable Select. (Alternatively, you might want to try reversing
> >> them and jumper the RW as the Master on the Master connector and the
> >> DVD as the Slave on the end connector unless your installation
> >> directions specify that the DVD has to be a Master. Many
> >> motherboards will only boot from a CD if it's the master device on
> >> the secondary channel, and it's often useful to be able to boot from
> >> the same drive where you created a CD for reasons I won't go into
> >> here.) In either case, let's be sure that things are set up
> >> correctly physically and eliminate that as a problem.
> >>
> >> What devices do you currently have installed on the Primary IDE
> >> channel, BTW? Two HD's?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:42F96A32.1A4A6274@xxxxxxx
> >>> Jim,
> >>>
> >>> Aargh! I ran FilterFixer, and restarted the system, but still can
> >>> only see the DVD drive in Windows. The funny thing is that when I
> >>> was testing, I booted into Safemode, and I could see both the DVD
> >>> and CDRW then???
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ohaya wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, thanks. I'll try the FilterFixer once I get time to open the
> >>>> machine again (I have a IDE PCI card in it right now).
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jim - Yes they are different - the CDGone download I gave,
> >>>>> http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip, handles some additional
> >>>>> things besides just deleting the Filter entries. I would suggest
> >>>>> running both it and the FilterFixer package, link to directions
> >>>>> here: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt,
> >>>>> direct download here:
> >>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe, in
> >>>>> order, maybe?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:42F92748.286AEC2E@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Jim (Byrd),
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. As I mentioned in my post, I already
> >>>>>> tried the "cdgone" registry thing, and that didn't help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are the other two suggestions any different from "cdgone"? I
> >>>>>> noticed that the registry changes in cdgone did some things with
> >>>>>> Upper and Lower Filter already?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim Byrd wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Jim - See here:
> >>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];270008
> >>>>>>> It may not sound like it applies but take the steps outlined
> >>>>>>> there to delete the Upper and Lower Filters.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You can also use this reg file to handle these deletes (it takes
> >>>>>>> care of deleting some other things which can cause problems as
> >>>>>>> well): http://www.aumha.org/downloads/cdgone.zip This is
> >>>>>>> pretty much the "standard" fix for this type of issue. Backup
> >>>>>>> first so that you can recover if there are problems (there
> >>>>>>> aren't usually, BTW).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's recommended by Compaq/HP that you run FilterFixer also when
> >>>>>>> this occurs to recreate the correct entries, here:
> >>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.exe
> >>>>>>> Instructions here:
> >>>>>>> ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp27501-28000/sp27949.txt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
> >>>>>>> My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
> >>>>>>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:42F83BE7.EC7BFFD6@xxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 system with both a DVD drive and a CDRW
> >>>>>>>> drive. The BIOS detects both drives (master and slave,
> >>>>>>>> respectively, on my 2nd IDE channel), but Windows 2000 only
> >>>>>>>> detects the DVD drive, and can't see the CDRW drive at all.
> >>>>>>>> Also the CDRW drive doesn't appear in Device Manager.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For now, I've installed a SIIG IDE controller card just so I
> >>>>>>>> can use the CDRW, and that is working, so I'm sure the CDRW
> >>>>>>>> drive is ok, but I was wondering if anyone might have an idea
> >>>>>>>> of how I might get both drives to work without the extra
> >>>>>>>> controller card?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've tried deleting the DVD drive in Device Manager and
> >>>>>>>> rebooting, but that didn't change anything. I've also tried
> >>>>>>>> adding the "cdgone" registry edits, but that didn't fix it
> >>>>>>>> either.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Jim
.

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