Re: Win2K Server as BDC?

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Believe the person who says no. He knows what he is talking about. <grin>

Cheers,

Cliff

RandyNChicago wrote:
Thanks guys - I am still back where I started. One person tells me yes and the other tells me no.

So again,

I do not want to upgrade any servers. I just want to add a Win2K server to an existing NT Domain as a BDC. Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks!
Randy


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Enkidu <enkidu.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:42eddc42$1
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nospam.please@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

It is true that Win2kserver running in its native mode
as a Domain Controller will use Active Directory, which
does not use the PDC and BDC terminology in the same way
as WinNT4server did (although one of the DCs
still acts something like a "primary" controller).


When running in 'mixed' mode Win2K DC also 'uses Active Directory'.

I should not have used the words "native mode", as they can be confused with a specific term "Native Mode" that refers to something that I did not intend here. I was not trying to imply that "Mixed Mode" (which I did not mention) does not "use AD". I was just agreeing that the terms PDC and BDC are no longer used in an AD domain.


However, Win2kserver can join an existing WinNT4 domain,
and can act as a BDC. It will "pretend" to be an NT4 server
(and can later be switched to its native mode if all of the
NT4 servers are removed from the domain).


This is wrong. A Win2k server cannot act as any sort of Domain Controller, PDC or BDC, in a WinNT4 Domain. 'Native mode' and 'mixed mode' refer to the whole Domain and do not apply to NT4 Domains.

I had better go tell the two that I have doing this that they cannot do it anymore, then. They may not be called BDCs (although in things like Server Manager this is what they show up as), but as far as I can tell they perform all the tasks that the NT4 BDC that they replaced did. Of course, so does a Linux box that I have running SAMBA (but I'm probably not allowed to mention that here).

Again, I should not have mentioned switching "native mode", even though I did mean the mode that is opposed to "mixed mode" - it was just an aside that was mostly irrelevant, as it applies to an AD domain.

I had better say here that I am not running this sort of setup as a production type of domain. I only am saying that it is possible. In the part that you trimmed out, I mentioned that doing this may not be the best way to do things. "May" was probably too weak of a word here. The recommended way of migrating is to upgrade the PDC to 2000 first - of course, the domain then is no longer an NT4 domain, and none of this discussion applies.


Are you trying to update your existing NT4 domain and
move to AD?  I would strongly recommend Server 2003 over
Server 2000. I would also recommend studying up on the
process very well before actually doing it, as you may
find it difficult to backtrack if you make the wrong choices
along the way.


I would ensure that you know the process well yourself before you give people advice similar to the above, which is incorrect.


I did not say that I knew the process well - which is perhaps why I gave the advice that I did.

You seem to agree with part of the advice that I gave, which was to know what you are doing first.
I suspect that you might also agree with the rest of the advice that I gave, which was to use 2003 over 2000. I've only ever set up a brand new domain using 2003, so maybe it wouldn't be the best choice for a migration for some reason?


Cheers,

Cliff





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