Re: Installing a second operating system on a second drive

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Well I don't know anything about XOSL. Provide a link please? Either will work I suppose. I just assummed if it was a boot loader then that is what it was. I didn't know it would also allow the second install of Windows 2000 to go on C. My understanding is that is not what a boot loader does so I need to look at it.

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George Hester
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"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:elTNYLAaFHA.2308@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> The point I tried to make to the OP was that he needs a
> third-party boot loader such as XOSL to make his
> OSs truly independent from each other. This involves
> running each OS off its own drive C:. Contrary to
> what you think, XOSL can do this. I have several
> installations to prove it.
>
> Furthermore, XOSL does not interfere with the boot
> sector of any OS. This means that you can easily boot
> into any OS without the help of XOSL - provided that
> you have some other tool to hide/unhide partitions and
> to mark them active/inactive. XOSL will do this for with
> a nice little menu.
> ======================
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eviUiw$ZFHA.3620@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> It doesn't and I never said it did. He has a Windows 2000 installation on
> his Primary IDE Harddrive as Master. But he wants to install Windows 2000 on
> a harddrive that is NOT on the Primary IDE channel as Master. What I
> explained is how to do that and give that new installation the drive letter
> C. And furthermore where it is NOT necessary to use a 3rd party boot
> loader. Remember a 3rd party boot loader alone will NOT provide the second
> installation the oppurtunity to be on C.
>
> This is the configuration prior to installing the second OP sys.
>
> Master harddrive on Primary IDE Channel has two partitions:
> Part 1 (7MB) (blank) (NOT Active) (bootable)
> Part 2 (Windows 2000 original install) (NOT Active) (bootable)
>
> Slave harddrive on Primary IDE connection OR harddrive using Secondary IDE
> connection.
> Part 1 (blank) (Active) (bootable)
>
> Getting this configuration is the crux of the matter. Now you are ready to
> install Windows 2000 (2nd op sys).
>
> When you do that guess which partition will show as C in Windows 2000 Setup?
> Right the Part 1 on "Slave harddrive on Primary IDE connection OR harddrive
> using Secondary IDE connection" because it is Active.
>
> Windows 2000 will balk at installing there. It tells you it needs a
> partition on the Master harddrive on the Primary IDE Channel to write a
> small set of Startup files to. You have that: Part 1 (7MB) (blank)
> (bootable).
>
> All done. Proceed with the Installation. Now both Windows 2000 see
> themselves on C; the native boot loader can be used to choose which op sys
> to boot; the second install takes care of everything for you by default.
> The only thing left is to set boot.ini to wait some time (ie. 15 secs)
> before doing the default. You will see boot.ini on that small partition.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _______________________________
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uE80UJ8ZFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I cannot see how your method can deliver two instances
> > of Windows, each on its own partition, each visible on
> > drive C: when active.
> >
> > If you can post a step-by-step procedure of how to achieve
> > the above then will try it out for myself. On the other hand,
> > if your method delivers OSs that are visible on two different
> > drive letters then there is no need to continue.
> >
> > =======================
> >
> > "George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:ec83R35ZFHA.3620@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hii Pegasus. You do not have any Partitions active when you start the
> > install of Windows 2000 except the one you are goiing to install Windows
> > 2000 on. If it is not on the Primary IDE Channel harddrive then so be it.
> > Windows 2000 setup will see that partition as C wherever it is.
> >
> > You switch between the two OSs when the native Windows 2000 boot loader
> > comes up. That is because the small partiton will be active when the
> > Windows 2000 Setup is done. Windows takes care of that.
> >
> > You do NOT hide the small boot partition. It is not necessary or
> relevant.
> > The ONLY active partition is the one you are going to put Windows 2000 on
> > before Windows 2000 setup. It's not active so not an issue.
> >
> > The boot loader (3rd party) I mention is one way to go I am not arguing
> with
> > that. I just was pointing out a 3rd party boot loader is not necessary.
> > Windows 2000 has one and it works. It will also see his other install by
> > default of the new Windows 2000 setup. Everything will be good to go
> after
> > the new install.
> >
> > The small boot partion can be 7MB which is FAT12. The startup files will
> > occupy about 500Kb. The same is true for Windows 2003 but because of its
> > bug it needs the small boot partion to be over 25MB. Go figure!!!
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > _______________________________
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:OSMIXDzZFHA.1152@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > What you propose is an interesting approach to multi-booting.
> > > What you have not really explained is how you're going to
> > > switch between the two OSs, each of which must be visible on
> > > drive C:. You also did not say how you will hide the small
> > > boot partition. I have the tools to do it but does the OP have
> > > them?
> > >
> > > All of this is quite nicely and automatically handled by the
> > > boot loader I suggested. I'm aware, of course, that everyone
> > > has his preferences. When I'm given two equivalent choices
> > > then I will always go for the one that follows the KISS
> > > principle - that's why I mentioned XOSL.
> > >
> > >
> > > "George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:%23eE%23WZyZFHA.720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Not really. The Windows 2000 Boot loader is good enough. If you want
> the
> > > install on a drive that is not on the Primary IDE channel AND you want
> it
> > to
> > > be C then you need to make a small partition on the Primary Channel
> > > Harddrive 15MB is good enough for Windows 2000 (55MB for Windows 2003 is
> > > enough - in point of fact this is a bug in Windows 2003 - but who
> cares?)
> > at
> > > the beginning of the harddrive. Then when you are ready to install the
> op
> > > sys and before you do, you have to make that partion on the other drive
> > the
> > > Active Partition. That has to be the ONLY active partition. Then that
> > > partition will show as C when you choose it in Winsdows 2000 Setup.
> > Trouble
> > > is Windows 2000 will not let you install there because it is not on the
> > > Primary IDE channel. It will tell you it needs to write a small set of
> > > startup files to the Primary IDE Channel harddrive. That is where your
> > > small partition comes into play. You choose that. (This part is a
> little
> > > tricky flollowing the correct prompts) The install should also see your
> Op
> > > sys you have now. The Boot Loader native to Windows 2000 is sufficient
> to
> > > choose the particular op sys you want to boot.
> > >
> > > Now how are you going to do this partition manipulation? Let me know if
> > > that is what you want to do I'll tell you how to do it. It requires a
> > > trick. You make an Active Partition on the Primary IDE drive. Then you
> > > make the partion on the other harddrive Active. Then you go back and
> > delete
> > > the partion you made active on the Primary IDE harddrive. Software used
> to
> > > do this will complain. Point is NO PARTITION at all on the Primary IDE
> > > harddrive can be Active. Ignore it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > George Hester
> > > _______________________________
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:#Lo#ZikZFHA.2984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > "Testpilot Mike" <Testpilot Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > news:D972E905-7353-4FF3-8C30-83B9A3C65E41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > I have three harddrives on my computer. One of the three has an
> > > operating
> > > > > system, win2K pro. How can I install win2K Pro on a second
> harddrive.
> > > All
> > > > the
> > > > > drives are formatted.
> > > > > Thank You, Mike R.
> > > >
> > > > Simple:
> > > >
> > > > - Boot the machine with your Win2000 CD.
> > > > - Select the destination for the second Win2000 when prompted.
> > > >
> > > > Note that the second copy of Win2000 will have a system drive
> > > > letter of D: or E:. This means that it must always run under that
> > > > drive letter. It therefore relies on the presence of drive C:. If
> > > > you want a truly modular multi-booting installation, with no
> > > > dependencies, then you must use a third-party boot manager,
> > > > e.g. XOSL (free!).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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