Re: Installing a second operating system on a second drive

The point I tried to make to the OP was that he needs a
third-party boot loader such as XOSL to make his
OSs truly independent from each other. This involves
running each OS off its own drive C:. Contrary to
what you think, XOSL can do this. I have several
installations to prove it.

Furthermore, XOSL does not interfere with the boot
sector of any OS. This means that you can easily boot
into any OS without the help of XOSL - provided that
you have some other tool to hide/unhide partitions and
to mark them active/inactive. XOSL will do this for with
a nice little menu.
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"George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It doesn't and I never said it did. He has a Windows 2000 installation on
his Primary IDE Harddrive as Master. But he wants to install Windows 2000 on
a harddrive that is NOT on the Primary IDE channel as Master. What I
explained is how to do that and give that new installation the drive letter
C. And furthermore where it is NOT necessary to use a 3rd party boot
loader. Remember a 3rd party boot loader alone will NOT provide the second
installation the oppurtunity to be on C.

This is the configuration prior to installing the second OP sys.

Master harddrive on Primary IDE Channel has two partitions:
Part 1 (7MB) (blank) (NOT Active) (bootable)
Part 2 (Windows 2000 original install) (NOT Active) (bootable)

Slave harddrive on Primary IDE connection OR harddrive using Secondary IDE
connection.
Part 1 (blank) (Active) (bootable)

Getting this configuration is the crux of the matter. Now you are ready to
install Windows 2000 (2nd op sys).

When you do that guess which partition will show as C in Windows 2000 Setup?
Right the Part 1 on "Slave harddrive on Primary IDE connection OR harddrive
using Secondary IDE connection" because it is Active.

Windows 2000 will balk at installing there. It tells you it needs a
partition on the Master harddrive on the Primary IDE Channel to write a
small set of Startup files to. You have that: Part 1 (7MB) (blank)
(bootable).

All done. Proceed with the Installation. Now both Windows 2000 see
themselves on C; the native boot loader can be used to choose which op sys
to boot; the second install takes care of everything for you by default.
The only thing left is to set boot.ini to wait some time (ie. 15 secs)
before doing the default. You will see boot.ini on that small partition.

--
George Hester
_______________________________
"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I cannot see how your method can deliver two instances
> of Windows, each on its own partition, each visible on
> drive C: when active.
>
> If you can post a step-by-step procedure of how to achieve
> the above then will try it out for myself. On the other hand,
> if your method delivers OSs that are visible on two different
> drive letters then there is no need to continue.
>
> =======================
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ec83R35ZFHA.3620@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hii Pegasus. You do not have any Partitions active when you start the
> install of Windows 2000 except the one you are goiing to install Windows
> 2000 on. If it is not on the Primary IDE Channel harddrive then so be it.
> Windows 2000 setup will see that partition as C wherever it is.
>
> You switch between the two OSs when the native Windows 2000 boot loader
> comes up. That is because the small partiton will be active when the
> Windows 2000 Setup is done. Windows takes care of that.
>
> You do NOT hide the small boot partition. It is not necessary or
relevant.
> The ONLY active partition is the one you are going to put Windows 2000 on
> before Windows 2000 setup. It's not active so not an issue.
>
> The boot loader (3rd party) I mention is one way to go I am not arguing
with
> that. I just was pointing out a 3rd party boot loader is not necessary.
> Windows 2000 has one and it works. It will also see his other install by
> default of the new Windows 2000 setup. Everything will be good to go
after
> the new install.
>
> The small boot partion can be 7MB which is FAT12. The startup files will
> occupy about 500Kb. The same is true for Windows 2003 but because of its
> bug it needs the small boot partion to be over 25MB. Go figure!!!
>
> --
> George Hester
> _______________________________
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > What you propose is an interesting approach to multi-booting.
> > What you have not really explained is how you're going to
> > switch between the two OSs, each of which must be visible on
> > drive C:. You also did not say how you will hide the small
> > boot partition. I have the tools to do it but does the OP have
> > them?
> >
> > All of this is quite nicely and automatically handled by the
> > boot loader I suggested. I'm aware, of course, that everyone
> > has his preferences. When I'm given two equivalent choices
> > then I will always go for the one that follows the KISS
> > principle - that's why I mentioned XOSL.
> >
> >
> > "George Hester" <hesterloli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%23eE%23WZyZFHA.720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Not really. The Windows 2000 Boot loader is good enough. If you want
the
> > install on a drive that is not on the Primary IDE channel AND you want
it
> to
> > be C then you need to make a small partition on the Primary Channel
> > Harddrive 15MB is good enough for Windows 2000 (55MB for Windows 2003 is
> > enough - in point of fact this is a bug in Windows 2003 - but who
cares?)
> at
> > the beginning of the harddrive. Then when you are ready to install the
op
> > sys and before you do, you have to make that partion on the other drive
> the
> > Active Partition. That has to be the ONLY active partition. Then that
> > partition will show as C when you choose it in Winsdows 2000 Setup.
> Trouble
> > is Windows 2000 will not let you install there because it is not on the
> > Primary IDE channel. It will tell you it needs to write a small set of
> > startup files to the Primary IDE Channel harddrive. That is where your
> > small partition comes into play. You choose that. (This part is a
little
> > tricky flollowing the correct prompts) The install should also see your
Op
> > sys you have now. The Boot Loader native to Windows 2000 is sufficient
to
> > choose the particular op sys you want to boot.
> >
> > Now how are you going to do this partition manipulation? Let me know if
> > that is what you want to do I'll tell you how to do it. It requires a
> > trick. You make an Active Partition on the Primary IDE drive. Then you
> > make the partion on the other harddrive Active. Then you go back and
> delete
> > the partion you made active on the Primary IDE harddrive. Software used
to
> > do this will complain. Point is NO PARTITION at all on the Primary IDE
> > harddrive can be Active. Ignore it.
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > _______________________________
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Testpilot Mike" <Testpilot Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> > message
> > > news:D972E905-7353-4FF3-8C30-83B9A3C65E41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > I have three harddrives on my computer. One of the three has an
> > operating
> > > > system, win2K pro. How can I install win2K Pro on a second
harddrive.
> > All
> > > the
> > > > drives are formatted.
> > > > Thank You, Mike R.
> > >
> > > Simple:
> > >
> > > - Boot the machine with your Win2000 CD.
> > > - Select the destination for the second Win2000 when prompted.
> > >
> > > Note that the second copy of Win2000 will have a system drive
> > > letter of D: or E:. This means that it must always run under that
> > > drive letter. It therefore relies on the presence of drive C:. If
> > > you want a truly modular multi-booting installation, with no
> > > dependencies, then you must use a third-party boot manager,
> > > e.g. XOSL (free!).
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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