Re: Active Directory/HIPPA Question

From: adfreak (rtivnan_at_comcast.net)
Date: 03/04/04 

Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:29:09 -0500

Thanks.

I'm probably correct in my assumption that ADAM will not support home grown
applications?

Appreciate your help
"Scott Harding - MS MVP" <scrockel@**NO_SPAM**hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uSGf8UiAEHA.808@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Here's some mroe info...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/adam.mspx
>
> download.....
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9688F8B9-1034-4EF6-A3E5-2A2A57B5C8E4&displaylang=en
>
> MIIS info...
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/directory/miis/default.mspx
> --
> Scott Harding
> MCSE, MCSA, A+, Network+
> Microsoft MVP - Windows NT Server
>
> "adfreak" <rtivnan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:O2PaZPhAEHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > First things first. I've been in the industry 10 years strictly doing
> > Microsoft work. I'm an MCSE on all three platforms (NT, W2K and Windows
> > 2003) and am very familiar with the differences between a domain and
> > workgroup. I guess you didn't read my statement close enough. The
client
> > is saying that since everyone of those 800 + remote sites does not
require
> > security principals accessing resources in the domain, then why bother
> > putting them in the domain? They won't need to push out group
> > polices,etc...
> >
> > They're more concerned with the servers in the central site hosting the
> data
> > for there medical applications (which require application
> > usernames/passwords). They want to know why they should fork up $500K+
to
> > roll out AD when their top priority this year is securing the
applications
> > for HIPPA compliancy. I simply wrote asking if MIIS and or ADAM (both
> newly
> > introduced recently) could help them out?
> >
> > Why isn't this the place to get "into this kind of discussion"?? I
> thought
> > this was a newsgroup where fellow engineers learn off one another, not
> blast
> > each other...
> >
> >
> > "Scott Harding - MS MVP" <scrockel@**NO_SPAM**hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:e4fSuEhAEHA.3024@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > If you are helping them design this you should know the reasons for a
> > domain
> > > over a workgroup. This really scares me that a company this big
doesn't
> > have
> > > the IT staff to support it. Especially when they are trying to be
HIPPA
> > > compliant! Security is one of the biggest reasons. Single sign is also
> one
> > > but not nearly as important as the Security advantages. A domain
creates
> > > secure channels between the clients and the network where a workgroup
> > > doesn't. You can require password changes and group policy to lock
> > > everything down. Simply adding a firewall and letting your users
decide
> > how
> > > and when to change their passwords and managing any of that with a
> > workgroup
> > > is just impossible. ESPECIALLY if you have 800 remote offices. Sounds
> like
> > > you need a local security consultant to help out. There are more
reasons
> > > than quoted here and this really isn't the place to get into this sort
> of
> > > discussion. More guys will probably chime in and give their thoughts
but
> > > getting some qualified and certified people on this decision is really
> > what
> > > is needed so they can know and understand a lot more than you can tell
> us
> > > here and make the proper recommendations.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Harding
> > > MCSE, MCSA, A+, Network+
> > > Microsoft MVP - Windows NT Server
> > >
> > >
> > > "adfreak" <rtivnan@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:O7Ndd1gAEHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have a potential client who is mulling whether or not to invest a
> ton
> > of
> > > > cash in upgrading to W2K3/AD. They are a company in the Medical
Care
> > > > industry who has one central location and up to 800 remote branch
> > offices.
> > > > Theses branch offices have a mix of Win98/W2K Pro/XP desktops.
There
> is
> > a
> > > > project in place for upgrading everyone to XP. These users at the
> > remote
> > > > offices simply utilize the pc's to access client/server apps back
home
> > at
> > > > the central location (i.e. SAP, Lotus Notes). They have no need for
> > > things
> > > > such as Office, Visio, etc... Along with the previously mentioned
> > > > applications are home grown, patient demographic applications they
> > acess.
> > > > Presently, these remote sites share usernames/passwords, some
> usernames
> > do
> > > > not require passwords. It's very messy.
> > > >
> > > > The client wants to know why they should go to AD when they can
simply
> > > throw
> > > > up a Firewall to protect the servers which are hosting (SAP, Oracle,
> > > Notes,
> > > > patient application, etc) and simply let these remote pc's sit in a
> > > > workgroup????
> > > >
> > > > My thoughts are MIIS for Single Sign on? And, what is this new ADAM
> (AD
> > > > Applicaton Mode) do for companies? The most important thing for
them
> is
> > > > HIPPA compliancy and they want to know how rolling out AD can make
> them
> > > more
> > > > secure? Exact examples?
> > > >
> > > > Any insight would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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