Re: W2K SP4 Hosed our PC - Need Help !!!

From: Vance Green (vancegrn_at_nowhere.net)
Date: 03/03/04 

Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 21:30:40 -0700

George, you seem to know what IE6 does
to perfectly working 5.5 systems...

I had one of those here, and installed .NET Professional
to do .NET CF programming for the Pocket PC. .NET Prof. won't
install without IE6.

So, I made a SS backup and let it.

I now get an intermittent GUI deadlock condition that
defies repair, screen ops slow to a crawl. When you drag
windows around the desktop, for example, it's move-stop-
move-stop, etc. Rolling back to 5.5 did NOT clear the problem,
IE 6 changed something (MFC, DLL et. al.) that has remained
after the repair.

Is this something you have experienced with your IE 6
escapades?

I really need to run .NET, and the IE6 misbehavior
issue is keeping me from doing it...

What are the specific issues of which you are aware?
Maybe I can do some more detective work here...

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In the server yes I do not like it. I agree. I told you I did not agree
with your assertion that Service Packs of Windows 2000 have come out to fix
things that were broke from earlier service packs. I think I was clear on
that.

The issue in the server is a pretty esoteric thing. I don't even recall
what it was at the moment. It was discussed when SP4 first came out and I
have never seen it since. But my recollection of it is that it sends an
error to the Event Viewer. What type of error the event ID I do not recall.
All I know is it is NOT hose material.

But I have told you where SP4 has the most problems. And in fact it is the
root cause of most well-behaving machines misbehaving. It is Microsoft
Internet Explorer 6 installed. Windows 2000 was not made for that browser.
If you recall Windows NT 4 had similar problems when IE 5 came out.

Sure I know some people believe their system behaves Top Notch with IE 6
installed. Boy would they be amazed how well it would behave if IE 6 was
NOT installed. 

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George Hester
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"Steve N." <NoOne@nunya.biz> wrote in message
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>
>
> George Hester wrote:
>
> > I don't agree.  SP3 fixed issues that were not fixed in SP2 which
> > fixed issues that were not fixed in SP1 which fixed issues that came
> > with Windows 2000.
> >
> > Now SP4.  I'm not going to get into "It's all the service pack's
> > fault" because in Windows 2000 Professional I have no issues.  In the
> > Server well that's a different matter.  And yes there is an issue
> > with SP4 in the server.  The issue is compounded by having Internet
> > Explorer 6 installed.
> >
> > But the issue is really slight and just results in an Error being
> > written to the Event Viewer and in fact another issue where the Event
> > Viewer stops functionaing.  Easily fixed.  Not the former but I know
> > of no earlier Service Packs that came out to "fix" an earlier one.
> >
>
> This is not the case im my experience with Win2K Pro (not Server) and
> SP4, as evidenced in my posts in this thread. If you care to address
> some of the issues I have had (and others have had) in this by all means
> please do. And by all means please elaborate on exactly WHAT you do not
> agree with that I've written.
>
> It seems to me that you wrote:
>
> "SP3 fixed issues that were not fixed in SP2 which fixed issues that
> were not fixed in SP1 which fixed issues that came with Windows 2000."
>
> Which is in part in agreement with some of what I wrote, except that I
> added that in MY experience (and obviously in that of others) it is
> often the case that there are things "fixed" and other things "broken"
> with service packs (and not just M$'s SPs either).
>
> All I am saying is that I have seen very many Win2K Pro PCs hosed by SP4
> that were otherwise working just fine. I gave my experiencial evidence
> and repeatable evidence, which I have done a fair job of suplying
> symptoms for here. Care to comment on anything specific? It'd be nice if
> someone could come up with exactly WHAT gets broken with SP4, WHY, and
> under WHAT circumstances. Maybe M$ would be able to actually FIX it
> then, instead of avoiding the issues. I've contributed my experiences. I
> don't have any answers except that if SP4 causes problems then remove
> it. It has proven beyond any doubt to me and many others to be
> problematic. If you haven't had the problems, then good for you. Me and
> a lot of others have.
>
> Steve
>

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