Re: salvage erased files?
From: bob (bfarabaugh_at_csteel.com)
Date: 02/13/04
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:09:14 -0500
Thanks for your advice on this. I appreciate your taking the time to
answer. I'll come up with some kind of solution.
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Inline -
>
> bob wrote:
> > I guess my users are spoiled from the days of netware's salvage
> > utility. I'm still pretty new to windows server software. It seems a
> > big step backward to lose the unerase capabilty we've grown used to
> > from the days of windows 95, or apple before that.
>
> Well, it's the server OS, not the client, that's the issue. I often miss
> salvage too. But www.undelete.com works pretty well.
>
> > I suppose I could
> > do some kind of backup of selected users local data as an alternative
> > to large profile folders.
>
> If you do the redirect I recommended, of My Documents to the user's home
> directory, you don't have much to worry about, and you did mention that
you
> were using roaming profiles, which will copy the rest of the profile data
to
> the user's profile share you specified in ADUC.
>
> I've always set up applications to store
> > data files on the server. This incident makes me wonder if that is
> > wise.
>
> It is - that wasn't the problem. You are doing backups on the server
> nightly, right? If people are storing all their data there, and log out so
> the files won't be locked/in use when the backup runs, you are unlikely to
> lose anything unless they created something and then deleted it before the
> backup ran...
>
> > I cant get money to buy after market solutions right now. I'm
> > surpised this feature is missing.
>
> Alas, but it is. If you don't have the budget to go for third party
> solutions, tell people to be very careful when they create and then delete
> files in the same day :-)
>
>
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:%23iuzDxL8DHA.2952@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> bob wrote:
> >>> It appears that win2k stores a backup copy of a users my documents
> >>> folder in the users folder on the server. At least it was storing
> >>> mine. When I looked at my nightly backup of the user folders it
> >>> seemed much larger than expected. When I moved some large files out
> >>> of c: my documents folder, the size of the server user folders
> >>> backup deceased correspondingly. If this is true I wonder if I
> >>> should have users store their data in their local my documents
> >>> folders assuming they will be copied to the server user folder and
> >>> backed up with it. The user in question had mistakenly erased some
> >>> autocad files that had been modified by him that day. He will have
> >>> to request these dwgs again from the customer and redo all the work
> >>> that was lost. This wouldnt have been necessary if they were stored
> >>> on C:
> >>
> >> If you're using roaming profiles, the My Documents folder in their
> >> profile folder will sync to the server at logoff. It's best to use
> >> folder redirection (through a policy) or manually point My Documents
> >> to the user's home directory on the server. Keep your profile
> >> folders as small as possible - this will also improve performance on
> >> login/logout.
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> >>> message news:ugx4I9$7DHA.712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Hi - inline
> >>>> bob wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks, I'm checking it out.I've always had the users files stored
> >>>>> on the server so they get backed up, but this loses the recyclebin
> >>>>> function.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. Recycle bin works only for local folders.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not clear about the way 2000 works with local drives.
> >>>>> I discovered the backup file for my user folder was much bigger
> >>>>> than what was stored in my user folder on the folder.
> >>>>
> >>>> What backup file?
> >>>>
> >>>> Subsequently, it
> >>>>> seems that win2k was backing up the my documents folder on C along
> >>>>> with my server located folder. Could you you direct me to an
> >>>>> explanation of how this works? Maybe I should have the users dat
> >>>>> on their cdrives, I'm not sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure what you mean. Are you referring to roaming profiles,
> >>>> folder redirection via policy, ????
> >>>>
> >>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> >>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote
> >>>>> in message news:ORTNTg57DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> I don't know if it will work after the fact, but check out
> >>>>>> network undelete software - www.undelete.com is one I'm aware
> >>>>>> of, but I haven't used it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bob wrote:
> >>>>>>> Today a user accidentally deleted some files stored on the
> >>>>>>> server. Is there no way to retreve them? is there a third party
> >>>>>>> utility to do this. They are spoiled as our old netware 411
> >>>>>>> server had that feature. The files were created today and
> >>>>>>> handnt yet been backed up to tape.
>
>
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