Re: Same two Domain Names in the same network

Dear Meinolf Weber,

Old server ABC on 2000 server, DC with exchange 5.5.

Built DEF which is a Windows 2000 and added DEF to the xyz.domain. Then
transferred FSMO 5 roles from ABC to DEF using NTDS using graphical
interface.

In ABC Exchange 5.5 was not able to upgrade to Exchange 2003. Switched off
old ABC.

Yes started from beginning on new hardware with installing server ABC as DC
with XYZ.com domain name, not using some backup files etc. Installed Exchange
2003 Recreated mailboxes on this hardware. ran Dcpromo on this server as
well. DNS is enabled. Added DNS suffix for DEF.

I had started initially built DEF server again which is a DC and DNS Server.
This has got AD; that is why. Since this has got the AD which was migrated
from the original server. I meant 2 forests since both has got the same
XYZ.com names.

When I try to see the AD from ABC I can see the AD and exchange objects
clearly. But we don't create any account here. We create exchange object
here. For creating user acccounts we use DEF.

One more observation in Domains and trusts on DEF -- showing ABC as NON
windows kereberos Realm.

Best Regards,
Sathya



"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

Hello Sathya,


I will try to follow:

Old server ABC on 2000 server, DC with exchange 5.5. Then you migrated from
server ABC to DEF. Is DEF also 2000 or 2003? So you added DEF to the domain
and promote it to a domain controller? How did you move the 5 FSMO roles?
Exchange upgrade from 5.5 to 2003 failed and then you switched off both servers?

You started from the beginning on new hardware with installing server ABC
as DC with xyz.com domain name, not using some backup files etc.? Recreated
the users and including Exchange everything is working fine. Anybody can
login and can use mail etc.? So you have also installed a new DNS server
on the new created ABC during the dcpromo?

Then you started again the server DEF which is a DC and DNS server? For what
reason? You have a running Domain controller with anything you need or did
I misunderstood something?

And what did you mean with the 2 different forests? The XYZ.COM is one forest
or two with the same names?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Dear Meinolf Weber,

Before Migration

ABC.XYZ.COM
Windows 2000 AD - 5.5 Exchange
Got license for Exchange 2003

Old ABC.XYZ.com AD moved(fsmo and DNS) to DEF.XYZ.COM

Switched off old server(ABC.XYZ.com). Unable to move Exchange 5.5 -
Unable to install Exchange 2003

Switched off new DEF.XYZ.com

installed new ABC.XYZ.com and exchange 2003
New Users created in AD. Exchange started working fine.
Switched on DEF.xyz.com

@ present DEF.XYZ.com --> for login i.e. AD & DNSdifferent forest
ABC.XYZ.COM --> for exchange. different forest
eventviewer details.

ABC.XYZ.com
APP log:-
Source:- MSExchange Transport
Event ID:- 3017
Type Error
System log:-
Source:- NetBT
Eventid:4319
Type:- error
Netlogon:- 5513,5723,5790
type :-error
W32time
event ID:-63,64,54
Type:-Warning
Print
event id:-20
type:-warning
W3SVC
event id:-100
----

event id details

DEF.XYZ.com

system log:-
Windows update agent
eventid:-16
Type:- Error
Netlogon
eventid:-5790
Type:-Error
MRxSmb
eventid:-8003
Error
KDC
eventid:-11
Error
Directory Service:-

Source:-NTDS KCC
EventID:-1311,1265
Type:-Error
Source:-NTDS KCC
EventID:-1265
Type:-Warning
DNS event log yesterday no errors

FRS:-

Source:NTFRS-13508-warning

I hope you will give some tips to go about.

Best Regards,
Sathya
"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

Hello Sathya,

As you write now, you have two different domain names and also
problems during migration. So please give the complete story about
what happened before and during the migration. If you give not all
information you have, it can happen that you got wrong information
back and something will not work.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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confers
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Further to your message

I had checked the FSMO roles on both the DC's

when I use the Netdom query fsmo command

I could see all the five roles in ABC.XYZ.com and in another also
DEF.XYZ.com.

Both the DC's are running in the same network(same physical network
same IP range). I came to know from the IT administrator that both
are separtely built -without joining to the main domain; there was
issues in migrating exchange from old server to the new.

I will try to send you the event logs by today afternoon.

Best Regards,
Sathya
Domain name:-XYZ.com - Windows 2000
Domain Controller name:- ABC - ABC.XYZ.com ---- AD & exchange
Server2000 -
used only for Exchange messaging.
Domain name:-XYZ.com - Windows 2000
Domain Controller name:- DEF - DEF.XYZ.com -- Active AD
Both these domain (XYZ.com) exist in the same network. I ho
"Meinolf Weber" wrote:
Hello Sathya,

The 5 roles are allways on the first installed DC which is correct
and if you only have one DC it can only be on this machine. FSMO
roles can only be on a dDC not on a member server. What kind of
performance problems do you have? Please give some more infos,
Event viewer errors etc.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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and
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Dear Mainolf Weber,

Thanks for the update.

Then can you clarify further. I could see on both the domain
controllers (which are in the same physical site) all the five
FSMO roles are running.

Schema, Domain, PDC, RID Pool Manager & Infrastructure. I see
performance issues on the network.

Best Regards,
Sathya
"Meinolf Weber" wrote:
Hello Sathya,

This is normal configuration, so what is the problem?
The kind of configuration you need to work in one domain with
different servers
which have different functions, like in your case. One as Domain
controller
which is responsible for user configuration, DNS, authentication
etc.
and
the exchange server which handles the email part of your domain
for
the users
that are allowed to logon your domain. If they are not in the
same
domain
it would not work.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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and
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Dear Weber,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

PresentlyDomain name, network name, name of domain controller
and name of Exchange

server.

Domain name:-XYZ.com - Windows 2000
Domain Controller name:- ABC - ABC.XYZ.com ---- AD & exchange
Server2000 -
used only for Exchange messaging.
Domain name:-XYZ.com - Windows 2000
Domain Controller name:- DEF - DEF.XYZ.com -- Active AD
Both these domain (XYZ.com) exist in the same network. I hope
now
it
is clear.
Best Regards,
Sathya
"Meinolf Weber" wrote:
Hello Sathya,

You can have a lot of Domain controllers in one domain, or did
you mean the same servername? So please clarify a bit your
naming problem.

Domain name, network name, name of domain controller and name
of Exchange server.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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warranties,
and
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I saw today same Windows 2000 Domain Controller (with same
domain name) in the same network having different roles: one
with Exchange role and another one is with AD role.

I think there will be performance problems

Can anyone suggest how to go about and remove one with a safe
procedure?

Best Regards,
Sathya



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