Re: Distinguishing between a directory and a file
- From: "Joe Richards [MVP]" <humorexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:21:32 -0500
My goodness Stefan, you are quite full of yourself aren't you?
Quoting RFCs and being the top versus bottom post czar/nazi/meter maid does nothing to give your posts any value nor you any credibility. You had one decent post and then you just started whining like a wet baby pulled away from mamma's breast. Why? Do you have nothing better to do?
You can whine all you want about the top posting versus bottom posting and the length of signatures but at the end of the day, no one cares about posting etiquette if they get their question answered. I have been posting and receiving newsgroup posts since about 1989 and not even then did anyone whine as much as some of the folks do today about top posting and back then it was a pain in the ass to try and top post, not the default as it is now. With the current GUI clients it is often much easier to view posts that are top posted. Of course that means nothing to you because you would rather whine and point at RFCs that matter no one little bit in the global scheme of things.
Honestly, the only folks that really care about the posting location are the ones who apparently have a stick up their ass and are more concerned about the delivery than the actual information. This is on par with being pissed that someone took a bicycle to a concert instead of car. Absolutely pointless. You are not going to change a single person from what they do with your arguments, so deal with it and if I may be so bold, your posts are generating more traffic than what you are bitching about. Me personally, I have 7Mbs bandwidth available, I like seeing the full message including the entire chain in top posting order and will continue to do so whether you, the person who asks the question, or anyone else disagrees. In my opinion you are lucky I took time out of my day to say anything you are privy to let alone go find a post that someone is asking a question in and helping them out. I can find much better uses for my time especially if all I get back in response are whining mewling posts. To put it more clearly so you don't have to read between the lines I respond in my own way, if you aren't happy with that, don't read my responses. I will try to find it in my heart to be disappointed. I expect you will find most people feel the same way. If you really want to show me, walk away from the computer and go to the bookstore and refuse to buy my book. At the very least we will get some peace and quiet while you are gone. In fact, how about you go to the bookstore and refuse to buy my book all day every day for now on? Feel free to take signs and banners to that affect. I am sure you will get just loads of attention from that and I would enjoy the free publicity. :)
As for Timo Salami, he got all upset based on me simply complimenting someone else and somehow deriving that to be an insult against him. That is outstanding deductive reasoning and logic. Glad to see he is in the Department of Accounting and Business Finance versus computer science or logic. You would have to start questioning the quality of every student coming out of the University of Vaasa. And just to be clear, now that you can take as an insult. There are no smiley faces here and I mean to say that he is a putz and he is lucky I am not one of his students as I expect I would take him to task over various things, college teachers didn't scare me when I was at university and certainly don't now.
After that I responded again in a sarcastic manner with a smiley pointing out he was at fault for exactly what he was trying to take others to task. This caused him to further burst his panties. Quiet honestly, I don't care, I think it is funny, well I thought he was funny at first, now I consider him to be a very sad insecure person who doesn't like people questioning him. That is truly bad for a "professor" in my opinion, he should be ready to be questioned at any given moment and debate in an intellectual manner which he has failed to do to the nth degree here. But then, I have found far too many tenured university professors who never leave the campus and actually understand the things in life they are trying to teach people about. Instead choosing to sit in the safety of their classroom telling students things like they were the last word on the topic and being quite upset by any challenges to what is being described. They think they can always win there, they control the grading. Unfortunately for them, the real world doesn't work that way. Anyone who has experienced both the real world and the world of the university can tell you there are no similarities betwixt the two.
Anyway, good luck to you Stephan with your RFC / top-bottom posting and signature tirade. I don't feel you will accomplish anything other than boosting the traffic you are so concerned about and making people laugh at you for being so anal but hey, whatever wiggles your pickle for you dude.
take care, joe
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Stefan Kanthak wrote:
"Dean Wells [MVP]" <dwells@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:.
I'm at a loss for words re: your comments ... I post of my own free will, I give my time to assist others at no personal gain (other than self satisfaction) -- I chose to do that in a manner that works well for me ... enough said.
We all here post for fun, not for profit.
The "works [well] for me" seems but symptomatic (as with bad code):
shouldn't it read "works well for all [your] readers"?
WFM just shows how much you care about them (frankly speaking)!
That's what the internet standards like RFC 1036 and RFC 1855 are about,
and its ABSOLUTELY annoying to have top postings with the umpteenth full
quote of some 100+ lines to download.
Remember: not everybody has DSL or cable, most still use modems or ISDN.
As for my munging my email addy, I absolutely cannot be following you here since to post a valid recipient address is beyond explanation ...
Just reply to one of my postings by email: I'll receive it.
SPAM to that address will but be filtered, either due to the missing
"Re: " in the subject or the missing "In-Reply-To: " or "References: ".
Address munging shifts YOUR spam problem to others, either the people
who want to email you (instead of posting, as recommended in RFC 1036
and RFC 1855) or the people who get the SPAM to your address bounced
when their's is abused as "From: ".
Remember: NUAs rely on valid headers, and people with working NUAs don't
see signatures because they are removed when editing the reply.
fup2p
Stefan
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