RE: SIDS show instead of user names

Hi,

Thanks for sending me the trace data.

I also found that in SID.cap, it contacts 136.167.2.235 and in Name.cap, it
contacts 136.167.2.247. However, I found in Name.cap, an IP: 136.167.2.233.
What IP is this?

Since the problem seems to be related to 136.167.2.235, I suggest you
shutdown this DC temporarily to see if the problem happens again.

Also, did you see the tool sid2name I attached? I'd like to suggest you run
it when the problem occurs to verify at the same time, if the sid can be
resolved. The syntax like:

Sid2name S-1-5-21-583907252-688789844-725345543-1344

Let me know the detailed output.

Thanks.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Thanks for the help. I may not be able to get to this today, but I
certainly
will do the NetMon trace. I was thinking of using NetMon, but it will be
very helpful for someone else to look at the output.

As far as the accounts being deleted in AD, keep in mind that this
affects
every single account (other than the one I'm logged on with) in every ACL
and
group, so I already know that isn't the problem. Even if I add a new
account
to a group, that user's name disappears as soon as I click OK.

"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your reply and clarifying.

Let's perform some troubleshooting steps:

2. Please use the tool sid2name.exe tool (attached) to
determine the name of those unknown accounts. Please run the below
one-by-one and
check the output:

Sid2name S-1-5-21-583907252-688789844-725345543-1344
Sid2name S-1-5-21-583907252-688789844-725345543-24842
Sid2name S-1-5-21-583907252-688789844-725345543-24843
Sid2name S-1-5-21-583907252-688789844-725345543-37443


Could you find the account names from sid2name.exe? If it cannot be
found,
the user
accounts are probably deleted and cause this problem. If the username
can
be shown
from sid2name, please search the user accounts in AD users and
computers to
ensure
it is there.

3. If you can find the user accounts name and it is existed in AD users
and
computers, please help to capture netmon trace on the problematic file
server.

A. Install the built-in network monitor tools on the problematic file
server.

Windows 2000: (Add/Remove Program --> Add/Remove Windows Components -->
Management
and Monitoring Tools --> Network Monitor Tools --> no need to reboot
machine)

B. Synchronize the time between file server and DC (otherwise it is
difficult to
check in netmon)

C. Run the netmon tool on the file server.

D. Go to Capture --> Networks to choose the correct network card by MAC
address

E. Go to Capture --> Buffer Settings and set 100MB as buffer size (this
setting is
to avoid the trace overwrite itself)

F. Go to Capture --> Start to start capture the network traffic on both
machines.

G. Reproduce the problem by checking the ACL.

H. Stop the capture in network monitor after the unknown account shown.
(Please
note the system time <hh:mm:ss>, we need it to check the netmon trace)

I. Save the network trace and send to me, please also tell me the IP of
the
machine.

my email is: v-xuwen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks.


Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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Hi Vincent -

Thanks for the response. The NBT Helper service is started and yes,
this
problem is persistent. It is not something that is resolved by
waiting.
If
I open a window for a group membership or ACL, I can leave it open
for 10
minutes and it still only shows SIDs.

I don't think it's a network issue and it is not intermittent. The
reason I
don't believe it is network related is because of the following that
I
said
in my post:
"I tried using the showacls command line utility and as long as it is
used
remotely, I DO then see the friendly names in ACLs. Also, when
logged
onto the server I can see the name of my own domain account, but it
is
followed by the SID."

One more thing that may or may not apply: File Server for MacIntosh
is
supposed to be running on that server, but the service will not start
and
both of these problems may have started around the same time. We
don't
really need FSM because the Mac users can connect using SMB instead,
but
I
thought I should mention it for troubleshooting purposes.

Thanks.


"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" wrote:

Hi ,

This issue can occur because the SIDs in ACL are not resolved into
friendly
user name immediately. Therefore, there will no access denied
issue. If
the
problem occur continually or always, please check if the TCP/IP
NetBIOS
Helper service set to disabled on the member server. If so, please
enable
it.

If the problem happens intermittently, not very frequently, I think
it
is
the intermittent network issue. The troubleshooting process may be
time-consuming and troublesome. However, please rest assured that I
will
try my best to provide assistance.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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I have a Windows 2000, SP4 member server in a single 2003 AD
Domain.
The
machine is a file server and IIS public Web server.
I log on to the server with my domain account, which has
administrator
rights on the server and when I look at either a group's
membership,
or
the
ACL on a folder, I see the SID rather than the user name.

It doesn't appear as though anyone is being denied access. If I
add
a
user
to a group or ACL, I can browse through the domain list of users,
but
once
they are added and I click OK, they show as only a SID.

I get the same behavior if I try this from a remote machine,
either
by
using
explorer to look at ACLs or Computer Management to look at group
membership.
I tried using the showacls command line utility and as long as it
is
used
remotely, I DO then see the friendly names in ACLs. Also, when
logged
onto
the server I can see the name of my own domain account, but it is
followed by
the SID.

This problem began to happen suddenly for no apparent reason. I
see
nothing
in the Event Logs that gives any clue.

Does anyone have any suggestions about fixing this?

Thanks.








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