Re: Re: DHCP Authorization in active directory.
- From: "Paul" <Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:22:09 -0700
Infrastructure products to assist:
Cisco ACS
Cisco WLSE (Wireless)
** A Cisco Agent hooks into AD, then, when a client asks for an IP address
the Cisco device simply asks for the AD credentials. If they match they get
an IP, if they don't, no access.
VLANs are also a way of helping limit unauthorized users to a degree.
"MoscowHippy" wrote:
> "ping2" wrote:
> > Hi Lara, thanks for the info. I had a feeling that your answer
> > would be no.
> >
> > It would be real nice if dhcp did auth against AD this would
> > put an
> > end to free internet access to rouge laptops. As I see it then
> > there
> > is no point in authorizing dhcp in active directory. I think
> > ms intent
> > was to try stop rouge dhcp servers from assigning bad ip's
> > with this
> > method.
> >
> > The problem with dhcp is that whatever dhcp server responds to
> > a
> > clients request first normally assigns the ip to the client.
> > If you
> > really want to hose a internal network just hook up a lowcost
> > netgear
> > router and hand out dhcp assignments on your subnet,,,
> >
> > I got about 200 client pc's on the network. In the above test
> > the
> > netgear typically bet MS Dhcp server in assinging ip's to the
> > client.
> > Needless to say they were the wrong ips.
> >
> > Thanks for your insight.
> >
> > JJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10 Jan 2005 14:51:44 -0500, lforbes
> > <UseLinkToEmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > > > Here is what I am trying to accomplish. Person hooks
> > up their
> > > > laptop to company network. Laptop broadcasts for a
> > dhcp assignment
> > > > dhcp server responds. Dhcp server checks active
> > directory for a
> > > > valid user... None exists. Dhcp declines assigning
> > the ip.
> > >
> > >I also posed this question a month back and the answer is no.
> > DHCP
> > >doesn’t authenticate to AD and therefore anyone with a laptop
> > can get
> > >an IP. DHCP is not domain specific.
> > >
> > >The only way I have got around this somewhat is to install an
> > ISA
> > >server. The only reason my users plug their laptops in is to
> > get
> > >internet service. The ISA requires AD authentication so
> > therefore no
> > >internet service.
> > >
> > >I also scan my DHCP on a daily basis. All my Network Names
> > are easily
> > >identified and start with the same letter R for Room # eg.
> > R123-123
> > >
> > >If I see an unidentified machines, I get the mac address and
> > then
> > >assign an ip like 192.0.0.0 which isn’t a correct IP.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Lara
>
> I have also been looking for this, or a similar capability. While I
> think that polling the active directory is a good idea, we have quite
> a few wireless pda’s that are not in active directory nor should be.
>
> I would rather have / build a table of authorized MAC addresses that
> all DHCP servers could verify against before handing out an IP
> address.
>
> request for address
> server receives
> verify valid mac address
> if in table - yes, otherwise 0.0.0.0 and flag an admin staffer
>
> Granted, a dhcp scope reservation is exactly the solution, it defeats
> the purpose of dhcp with my mobile (l)users. I would rather have one
> table that all my servers point to with all authorized mac’s so I
> don’t have to worry about what site, what subnet, etc.
>
> No valid MAC, No valid IP address
>
> Or if a script that watched the various scopes watching for change,
> verifying each new address against the above prebuild table and
> revoking licenses as they come up.
>
> For what it’s worth...
>
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