Re: Connecting to DC in wrong site

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From: ptwilliams (ptw2001_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 11/22/04


Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:05:05 -0000

There's the usual things checked.

I guess it's time to get network monitor out and trace what's happening...

-- 
Paul Williams
http://www.msresource.net
http://forums.msresource.net
"Tim Kalligonis" <tkalligonis@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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Yes, this site contains 3 GCs.
The Machines and DCs are looking at the same DNS servers.... QIP, not
Microsoft.  DNS servers are in the same physical location as the DCs and
clients(the ones I have seen the problem on)
No supernetting that I can find.
Subnet def in this site is correct for the sunbet where I have seen the
issue.
Clients are all XP.  I haven't see a case on 2000, but we really don't have
anything older than XP.
"ptwilliams" <ptw2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You've also not mentioned whether or not you have a GC at this site.  I
> trust that you have at least one GC at this site?
>
> You may also want to consider where these machines are looking for their
DNS
> resolution.
>
> Finally, although you've checked it once, and are looking again for
> supernetting, re-check the subnet associations.  Perhaps you've declared a
> 24 bit net mask for a 23 bit mask??  We had these problems, and it was a
> typo in one of the subnets...
>
> I also assume that these are non-legacy clients?  You often see legacy
> clients going off after the PDCe <g>
>
> -- 
>
> Paul Williams
>
> http://www.msresource.net
> http://forums.msresource.net
> ______________________________________
> "Tim Kalligonis" <tkalligonis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%23rUe6anwEHA.2908@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> As far as I know... No.  But I'll have to look into it to verify.
>
>
> "ptwilliams" <ptw2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uSz69RewEHA.3292@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Are you using supernetted sites?
> >
> > That is, are you using a single subnet definition to capture two or
three
> > subnets, e.g. 192.168.0.0/22 whereas the actual subnets are
192.168.0.0/24
> > and 192.168.1.0/24
> >
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Paul Williams
> >
> > http://www.msresource.net
> > http://forums.msresource.net
> > ______________________________________
> > "Tim Kalligonis" <tkalligonis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:eF1MNZawEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I check everything both of you have mentioned.
> > SRV records look good.
> > I check a few machines that I have seen authenticate to remote DCs and
the
> > registry key is set to this local site.
> > I check the remote DCs for event 5778, however I am running Win 2003.
> Event
> > ID change?  Not likely.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > "gordonah" <gordonah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:368CD184-1513-48AC-A425-D763E432CB44@microsoft.com...
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > somewhere in the registry (under netlogon/parameters?) there is a key
> > called
> > > dynamicsitename. If this somehow picks up the wrong setting it may
> remain
> > in
> > > the registry and the value may need to be deleted).
> > > If the client is attaching to a 'random' DC as it has failed to
identify
> a
> > > subnet, then a 5778 error will be logged in the system event log of
the
> > > authenticating DC (for W2K). This will allow you to determine if there
> is
> > > some confusion of in sites and servers (in particular AD SS only
checks
> > for
> > > uniqueness in the IP address portion of the subnet, it is possible to
> > inout
> > > overlapping subnets). For W2K3 the 5778 errors are rolled up in to
> another
> > > error saying "there have been x occurences of error 5778", or similar,
> the
> > > actual listing of affect clients in a local log file somewhere.
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Gordon
> > >
> > > "Tim Kalligonis" wrote:
> > >
> > > > We've been having an issue where random client machines connect to
> > Domain
> > > > Controllers outside of their site.
> > > > I've only see the issue in the site I am located in, there have not
> been
> > > > reports of this issue from other sites so I'm not sure if this
occurs
> in
> > > > those other sites or not.
> > > >
> > > > I've checked the obvious - make sure all subnets that are suppose to
> be
> > > > associated to this site are defined in the site.  Checked the remote
> > sites
> > > > were these clients are connecting to making sure that the subnet is
> not
> > also
> > > > defined somewhere else.
> > > >
> > > > Issue:  Occasionally client will take a little longer than usual to
> log
> > into
> > > > their machine.  If the %logonserver% is check it will show they were
> > > > authenticated to a domain controller outside of their site.  It is
> > usually a
> > > > domain controller is one of three remote sites.  We have a total of
26
> > > > sites.  Then when ADUC is opened it will also connect to this remote
> DC.
> > > >
> > > > Another interest piece of information is the fact that the site I am
> > seeing
> > > > this occur in has the most DCs in it, it has four DCs for this
> > particular
> > > > domain plus the FSMO roles reside on 2 of the 4 DCs in this site.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't been able to find and KB articles describing this problem.
> > Has
> > > > anyone experienced this problem or know of KB articles describing
this
> > > > issue?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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