Re: I don't want to re-invent the Login/Login Wheel - Help with utilities

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Thanks Norman. I dl'ed and installed VS2008 last nite with all of the
Framework updates. If you can help with thes questions I would appreciate:
1) Is there an option to switch between 2.0 to 3.5 thru coding or
other manual methods?

2) I noticed that each application has it's own IDE? Is this just
because it is free or is MS doing something
new & different?

3) Where is a good place to look for configuring the SQL2005 that
was installed with VS2008?

Thanks again . . .
Tom J.
"Norman Yuan" <FakeName@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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SQL Server 2000 will be fine.

"tjdarth" <tjdarth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks aagain Norman. I am not at the either/or state of choosing between
VS2005 or VS2008. I again reviewed your answer concerning SQL Server in
your original response. It appears that what you are saying is that there
will be a curve to learning SQL Server Express that comes with VS2005 or
VS2008, but I can take advantage of my current SQL 2000 to develop my
application using the membership features of thes new VS2XXX products. If
this is correct I am probably ready to make the plunge.

Thanks, you have helped me tremendously . . .
Tom J.

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"tjdarth" <tjdarth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Norman. It appears from your answer that by downloading &
installing ASP.NET 2.0, I will have the capability that I desire
without too much of a fuss. Do I understand you correctly that the
installation of 2.0 framework will work with VS 2003 or is that another
mountain I have to climb?


No, VS2003 only works with .NET1.1. You need VS2005 to work with
.NET2.0/ASP.NET2.0. (you can download VS Web Developer Express for free,
if you do not have full VS2005).



Also I have done some snooping and notice that there are a variety of
start kits that offer some of the features that you have mentioned. Are
you familar wiht any and if so, which one would you recoment?


Never used them. But they are good samples to get started with.



Again, thanks for your patience and help/
Tom J.

"Norman Yuan" <FakeName@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In the case of AS.NET app, being hosted by ISP, it is very likely the
users are not windows domain user. So, using Windows authentication is
likely out of connsideration.

Yes, if you use .NET1.1, there isn't built-in login control, and more
importanltly there isn't ready-to-use membership component to use. So,
you do have to re-invent the wheel of loging in/user membership
logics, or you need to find available third party code to use. I'd
strongly suggested you go with ASP.NET 2.0, which has built-in web
app/site membership components, which you can easily use it to manager
users who access to your web app/site. By default, the membership
provider uses SQL Server or SQL Server Express. It you go with that,
make sure you do not know SQL Server/Express well before rush into it
(especially pay attention to avoid using SQL Server Express User
Instance when going through website adminstration wizard in
ASP.NET2.0).


"tjdarth" <tjdarth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Norman for the quick response. Currently my client and I have
agreed to make this an ASP.NET application because we are working
with limited funds and would like to allow only select clientel to
access our SQL database thru an ISP provider. We also agree that
carrying this data along with other personal characteristic data for
the user using this application would allow us to have better control
over how long a user could use the same password. We feel that having
the capability to force password change would be a better benefit in
securing our application and data access. That was the reasoning
behind asking about encryption/decryption methods.

I am currently trying to develop this ASP.NET application with VS
2003 .NET1.1 and Dreamweaver CS3. My understanding is that moving up
to .NET2.0/3.0 or 3.5 would mean aquiring VS 2005 or VS 2008. I also
have a valid copy of MS SQL 2000 which also means a possible move to
a more current version of SQL as well. These things I need to
investigate as to how far I can go with what I currently have.

I have been brainstroming about how to carry each users credentials
for verification purposes at login time. Both Windows authentication
and authorization wolud be be fine if we wanted the world to have
access to our application data, but not very intuitive for
maintaining integrity over our data. We actually would like to stay
away from Win apps altogether partly because this wolud mean
maintaining software on multipule machines, which could become
cumbersome.

I greatly appreciate your feedback on this issue and hope you can
share more knowledge with us as we go forward with this venture.

Thanks again . . .

Tom J.
"Norman Yuan" <FakeName@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Is this project a Win form app or ASP.NET app? Is the logging in
process for authentication only, or for both authentication and
authorization? If it is win form app, shoudn't the user have to log
into his computer? So, the user should be considered authenticated.
If it is ASP.NET, yu could use Windows authentication, so no logging
in is required; if you choose Form authentication, ASP.NET2.0 has
built-in login control to use. Unless you have very unique
requirement, you to not need re-invent a simple wheel. But you can
always choose to re-invent a rounder/fancier wheel to suit your
special need.

"tjdarth" <tjdarth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hey guys, I am starting a small project for a friend who expects to
have users do a normal logon process using UserName & Password
variables. I want to save some time and find a reliable piece of
code with encrypt/decrypt capabilities that has been written in
either C# or VB.Net that would could be easily incorporated into my
application. If there is a link that could be provided or other
sources that you might think of, it would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance . . .













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