Re: Java in Visual Studio 2005?

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Yes, I do doubt that they would. I was just hoping that since Visual J# has
such a similar syntax to Java I would be able to develop any Java
applications with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, but the problem is that it
doesn't have all of the elements of the newer JDK (1.5) available.
Intellisence I find to be extremely useful, and wanted to have it for all
Java components, the compiling parts I can worry about later (I don't really
mind having to do that by myself; I just love Microsoft's IDE for coding).
So the only solutions to this that I can think of is that either someone has
written a managed DLL (that has the JDK structure, not actually
functionality) that you can reference to in your program, and remove
everything else, so that all of the intellisence and everything has all of
the up-to-date Java classes included.
Either that is a solution, or someone could have already worked with the
Visual Studio SDK to create a language pack that supports Java, so it would
integrate projects, .java files, have proper intellisence, and even call the
Sun compiler as well (I believe all this would possible with the VS SDK,
since language packs are a big component of it).

Maybe no one's gotten around to working with language packs yet, but has no
one ever thought of making this managed dll to reference? I just think it
would be a very useful feature, for those who like Microsoft's IDE.
Obviously Microsoft wouldn't do this themselves, but I was hoping that maybe
just someone might have wanted to do it, or even a thrid-party as well.

And I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any language packs out at
all, like if some site has a list of them (I've seen a list of all
third-party .NET compilers on some dotNET site). I'm not sure just how long
the Visual Studio 2005 SDK's been out for, but I thought that that
integration has limitless possibilities; Visual Studio 2005 could be used to
program many languages alongside its own .NET ones. Having a single IDE for
all of your development would be extremely useful, although I doubt it'd be
easy (if possible) to implement debugging.
Anyway, I'm getting a little off topic. If anyone knows of something you can
reference, or a project working with language packs for using Java in VS05,
please let me know.

Thanks,
- Aaron Lindsay

"Kevin Spencer" <spam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Aaron,

I understand now. Sorry I misunderstood your question the first time. I do
not believe Microsoft makes any IDE for working with Java. The Visual
Studio
IDE shells out to command-line tools that do the actual work. These
command-line tools are software developed by Microsoft for developing
applications with Microsoft programming technologies. As Java is a Sun
technology, and considering the bad blood that has gone between them over
the years, I doubt that Microsoft will *ever* develop development tools
for
creating Java applications.
Does J++ not count? You could turn off Microsoft Extentions, so I'd say
that's pretty close... It's just old, and as I said, doesn't support the
newer classes and features that I need.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


"Aaron Lindsay" <AirHead3.0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes, I know about J#. My question is whether there's either an assembly
you
can reference that has everything up to JDK 1.5 available for
intellisence
(then I can compile with the Java compiler) or if someone actually has
already made a language pack for Java, so you can build, maintain
projects,
and have Java intellisence built in together. I'm developing Java
applications for web pages to be OS independant, so J# isn't directly an
option.

Thanks,
- Aaron Lindsay
- (AirHead3.0)
"Kevin Spencer" <spam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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J# - http://msdn.microsoft.com/vjsharp/default.aspx

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Ministry of Software Development
http://unclechutney.blogspot.com

I just flew in from Chicago with
a man with a wooden leg named Smith
who shot an elephant in my pajamas.
So I bit him.


"AirHead3.0" <AirHead3.0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I know that with the release of the Visual Studio 2005 SDK, creating
'languages' seems to be something you can easily do. I know that the
examples they had were making the language IronPython integrated. I
was
wondering if anyone's already released any languages like this to the
public yet, or if it's still new... I love the Visual Studio IDE, and
want
to develop all of my projects within it. I specifically want to use it
to
develop Java applications instead of using NetBeans 5.0, which is a
very
slow and annoying interface to use. Even without the form editing
support,
I would greatly need this type of tool. If anyone knows of a project
such
as this, or a list of all developed language packs, I'd be very
greatful
for that information.

If this doesn't exist yet, has anyone at least made a managed
assembly
that you can add to a Visual J# project (it would be the only DLL
referenced) that would have all of the JDK 1.5 objects and classes in
it,
available through intellisence? Even if none of it works, a framework
like
that would be really helpful, for then I would just copy-and-paste
code
into NetBeans, and still do most of the work in the Visual Studio
IDE.
I
would think someone may have thought of doing this, so does anyone
know
if
they have? If not, I think I may do just that if I have time, but I
do
hope there's something out there...

Anyway, so if anyone knows anything about Java development in Visual
Studio, please let me know!

Thanks,
- AirHead3.0

PS: Why couldn't Microsoft just have made J# still java, as J++ was?

PS2: Visual Studio 2005 is the BEST IDE out there, which is why I
would
not prefer to use anything less. just in case someone says to just
get
this, or get that.








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