Re: Newbie scratching his head
- From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:51:37 +0100
When I took my first steps in this field, many years ago, I tried BASIC from
the assumption that it was easier. I absolutely didn't understand enough of
it to get over the initial hurdles. I had read that 'C' was not recommended
for beginners, but QuicC came out and was rather un-costly, so I bought it.
Actually, this was really easy - but, then I am a nuts and bolts kind of
guy, everything made complete sense to me from the very start - following up
on the algorithms and actually getting your stuff done, has not so much to
do with the language, if it is a difficult subject, it will be a difficult
job.
It all depends on the way you like to think about things, I agree with the
above - I don't like BASIC, but I like having some good books around, if you
are going to concentrate on something 'C -like' I recommend laying your
hands on the Petzold and the Prosise, they will end up being useful whatever
language you decide to use for Windows Programming.
Tony. . .
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> As a complete Newbie myself only a few months back (although I had done
some
> machine code back in Amiga days and some before that) I decided to try the
> VS2005 betas and VS2003 just to see the differences. As a result, thinking
I
> should actually try to do some serious study at last, I bought books on
C++,
> VB and C# - all the .net versions I guess.
>
> Based on my almost total lack of knowledge of all 3 languages I figured
that
> C# is the most likely to advance the quickest, and thus be adopted more
> while VB kinda fades out. I remain convinced that OOP is a myth, brought
> about by aliens who intend to nullify our technological advancement by
> creating confusion and placing the entire human race inside curly
brackets,
> but if we're going to let them get away with it we may as well go the
> easiest route :)
>
> Actually even Quickbasic can be more "Powerful" than it ever got credit
for,
> but I don't necessarily think that "Power" means the same to all people.
In
> terms of getting to the hardware, and speed, I maintain that machine code
> (Well assembler of course) is the only "Powerful" language, but to use it
> these days and see any benefit you'd have to reinvent so many wheels it
> would be a lifetime's work to get to what most users expect to see. I mean
> there's not much point in writing super efficient code and still having to
> call Windows routines written in C++ to show the results :)
>
> Frankly I never liked Visual Basic, to me it was neither Visual nor Basic,
> so I am kinda biased against it despite recognizing that the current
> versions are vastly superior, but I think my hurdle is getting to grips
with
> OOP rather than C#, so I can only suggest you go with what seems to sink
in
> best with you.
>
> On a totally different topic I would add that some months ago I acquired
by
> accident a spare PCI video card so for the hell of it installed it to see
> what happened. Since then I have to wonder how one manages with just a
> single monitor and desktop - since you can drag any help off to one side
and
> or test you code while still looking through it. It's like a cordless
drill,
> you wonder how the heck we ever managed before they were invented :)
Perhaps
> some of the hardened old "Pros" will laugh but I do seriously think it is
a
> very useful addition while learning.
>
> Good luck, I figure I'm probably quite old for a newbie but there ya go...
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
> "BPB" <BPB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7DA33E03-283B-45C0-8D3E-8A1787E221FD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I've been a designer for years, never getting into development since I
> > would
> > just hire others to do the heavy lifting. For various reasons I have
> > decided
> > to do development myself. However, I would like to learn one language
> > first
> > then move on to others. What would you recommend I start out with?
Visual
> > Basic looks like it's easiest to learn, but I've read that C# is much
more
> > powerful. I haven't really found any articles to explain the differences
> > between the 2 languages. Does anyone have any information?
> > Thanks
> > --
> > BPB
>
>
.
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