Re: Platform SDK and Visual Studio 6 - broken ?

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From: Jerry Pisk (jerryiii_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/05/04

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    Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:10:53 -0700

    I'm probably going to regret this as I'm only feeding a troll like you.

    Before you start calling somebody a moron take a look at yourself. You can
    use any browser you want to get Platform SDK. You don't need any ActiveX
    controls to install it either. I'm starting to think that open source users,
    especially the ones proud of being open source users, are complete morons
    that are not capable of navigating the web. You can download the
    installation as a set of archives, at
    http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/psdk-full.htm
    (it's linked from the menu off of the Platform SDK site). I hope you know
    how to download files using Firefox. Once you extract the files (Microsoft
    even provides a batch file for you so you don't have to do it manually) you
    can just start the installation, it uses the standard Windows Installer
    interface to install.

    As for needing 500 MB of disk space - you only need the build environment to
    do what you want to do, that's only 30MB download. If you don't care for the
    documentation why are you selecting it? It's an unnecessary 100MB download.
    Same goes about IA-64 files and samples, just don't select them if you don't
    want them. You're back on Windows, you have choices, so get used to it and
    stop whining.

    Jerry

    "Allenb" <allenb_485@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:25bb231d.0406040921.74e425d8@posting.google.com...
    > After a two year hiatus, developing embedded and Linux applications,
    > I had the misfortune of having to return to the Windows platform.
    >
    > At first I was looking forward to it, having over 10 years of
    > Windows development experience, starting with Win 3.1, it felt
    > like I was returning to an old friend. I unearthed my Visual Studio 6.0
    > CD,s and got going. The first problem soon came to light, I DON'T use
    > MFC, unfortunately creating a new resource file presumes everyone
    > has been seduced by the MFC junk, and creates a broken resouce file.
    > A search of the web, soon got me over that hurdle. Edit the resource
    > file, and replace every occurance of afxres.h with winres.h, simple
    > once one knows how, but worse was yet to come.
    >
    > I needed to use the SHGetFolderPath library function. It appears that
    > this is only available in versions of shfolder.h and shfolder.lib newer
    > than those in VS6.0. A search of microsoft's web site, informed me that
    > I needed to install an updated Plaform SDK.
    > This is where the real fun started. Firstly although I am happy with
    > the Firefox browser, finding it preferable to IE in every way, MS is
    > not happy with me using it. To download the Platform SDK, I have to
    > use IE.crap. I load up IE, install the requisite Active X control, and
    > eventually got to the installation page. I choose the core SDK, which
    > informs me that I need approx 500 MByte of free disk in order to install.
    > I am pretty shocked, as all I need is a few libraries and header files,
    > but as I have nearly 800 MByte free, I decide to proceed. I go off to
    > get a cup of coffee, 20 minutes later back at my desk, I see that the
    > install has crapped out, insufficient disk space. I decide to free up
    > some disk space before proceeding, but in the process notice that I have
    > somewhere lost over 200MB. I reboot the computer, thinking that the temp
    > files will probably be cleaned up, but the disk space is still gone. After
    > deleting temp files and temporary internet files, I seem to to have
    > recovered
    > the space. I eventually got the piece of bloatware known as the Platform
    > SDK installed. Over 500MB of my hard drive consumed, including an Office10
    > directory with some junk in it. I don't, and have never used MS Office but
    > the bizzare minds at MS seem to think that I should.
    > Whoever is responsible for the Platform SDK is a moron. Why should I have
    > to install over 500MB to get a few headers and libraries? How do I burn
    > the SDK to a CD, so that 2 years from now when my program needs to be
    > changed, I can install the exact same development environment?
    > The platform SDK is either an extreme example of MS bundling, or design
    > by IDIOTS.
    > Either way, the biggest mistake the DOJ made was not breaking up
    > MS and ridding the planet of this scourge. It is time for me to give
    > up Windows programming for good.
    > I urge all you developers who have been seduced by the MS crap, to have a
    > look at the otherside occasionly. For me having worked with non-MS
    > products
    > for two years, coming back to Windows was a rude shock. The terms small
    > and
    > elegant have meaning in my vocabulary, but seem to be used as a synonym
    > for
    > bloatware on the MS campus.
    > Allen

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