Re: Compilation on VS 2005 Beta 2 is slower than on VS 2003



Don't see this as if they were doing this from the first day. It just means
that the "alpha" product (compiler, EDI or whatever) is written with a
previously available product and once they have something that "works
enough" they can move on and start building incrementaly the new product
using the previous built of this same product...

And it has been likely much easier for 2.0 than for the 1.0 release...

--
Patrice

"Hasan Kosten" <hkosten@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
news:ea6u70t%23FHA.360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Borland is doing this with Delphi from the start. Every version of Delphi
> was developed with Delphi.
>
> "Nery Gonzalez" <nery_gonzalez@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:usr9TPZ0FHA.2924@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >I have always wonder how you do this:
> >
> >> "we are using VS 2005 compiler to build VS 2005 itself."
> >
> > How can you compiled VS 2005 using a VS 2005?
> >
> > For me, it's like how can you have something built upon something that
you
> > are not supposed to have built it yet?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mikhail Arkhipov (Microsoft)" <mikhaila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió
en
> > el mensaje news:BF75CD0B.16EF7%mikhaila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> On 10/14/05 15:01, in article uGJQbrQ0FHA.2880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> >> "Kevin
> >> Spencer" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think the term "beta" is the operative word here. The beta version
is
> >>> loaded with debugging symbols, among other things.
> >>
> >> We never ship Betas with debug code of symbols. Beta is normal release
> >> build, fully optimized. We do produce symbols internally, but they are
in
> >> separate PDB files and are not shipped to customers.
> >>
> >> As for slow performance, I would suggest filing a bug on MSDN Feedback
> >> site.
> >> I personally haven't noticed this and we are using VS 2005 compiler to
> >> build
> >> VS 2005 itself.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Mikhail Arkhipov (Microsoft)
> >> -- This post is provided 'AS IS' with no warranties and confers no
rights
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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