Re: VS 2005 Pro and Unit Tests etc.

> "Ripping them off?" The OS authors didn't expect to make any money
> from their efforts anyway, so what's your complaint?

To "rip off" is to imply theft, fraud or plagerism. It is not
nessasarily monetory. I meant it in the context which is commonly used
to imply the theft of ideas as in "you ripped that idea off from me".
MS ripped the idea from the OS community - quite a great hypocrisy
considering their overprotectionism of "Intellectual Property Rights"
i.e. patenting the smell of Bill Gate's farts. The OS community
doesn't expect money but it does expect contribution.

> NUnit is based on JUnit, so I guess the JUnit authors got ripped off, too?

How so? NUnit isn't based on JUnit it is a PORT of JUnit i.e. it is
the .NET port of the Java (hence _J_Unit vs _N_Unit) version from the
same communities (i.e. the TDD and XP communites - originally from the
Java world - hence my point about .NET owing a lot to Java OSS). To
say NUnit ripped off JUnit is like saying Cubase for PC is a rip off of
Cubase for Mac.

The point is the whole unit testing, build scripts, code coverage, even
refactoring are NOT Microsoft concepts any more than a browser or HTTP
is. They come from the open source world and MS have plagerised the
ideas for there own profit. This was not nessasary - Apple, IBM, Novel
and Google have all found ways to build succesful business models based
around the contribution to OS software, and integrating with it. MS
obviosuly seem incabable of such honerable behaviour.

Christoph Nahr wrote:
> On 23 Nov 2005 05:17:22 -0800, peter.moss@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >Now MS is frankly just ripping them off.
>
> "Ripping them off?" The OS authors didn't expect to make any money
> from their efforts anyway, so what's your complaint? NUnit is based
> on JUnit, so I guess the JUnit authors got ripped off, too?
>
> >To me this new product model looks like MS have retreated to the old
> >embrace, extend and extinguish business model.
>
> Yeah, I'm sure NUnit will be extinguished in no time by a unit-testing
> tool that's only available in the overpriced Team System! Get real...
> --
> http://www.kynosarges.de

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