Re: Applications developed with VS2005 do not running under Windows 98?
From: Stu Smith (stuarts_at_nospam-digita.com)
Date: 07/06/04
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:13:40 +0100
"Lau Lei Cheong" <leu_lc@yehoo.com.hk> wrote in message
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> Just want to make additional notes for Frank's comment.
And I'll take the opposing view:
>
> As a matter of fact, believe it or not, some of our customers are still
> using accounting softwares written by Clipper(i.e.: DOS application).
Yes, but they aren't running on DOS. Windows is (mostly)
backwards-compatible so your application doesn't have to be.
>
> I'll agree that to extend the support to DOS is not reasonable as there's
> only little clients running DOS. But for Win9X/WinNT, the situation is not
> the same.
It's always a question of degree. .NET seems to have a baseline 7 years
before (ie VS2002 dropped '95 support, and three years later, VS2005 drops
'98 support).
>
> To my understanding, about more than 60% of computers in companies of Hong
> Kong are still using Win9X because they brought the OEM version(which's
> prize is cheaper) when they bought their computer. If they need to upgrade
In general, the sort of people who can't afford to upgrade Windows are also
the sort of people who can't afford your software.
Remember also that figure is based on sales figures -- plenty of people have
upgraded using pirated copies of XP.
> in order to use newest software, they'll more likely to stick with the
> existing solution rather than upgrading unless they need to replace their
> computer. That means if we now try to program anything that do not support
> Win9X, we're making ourselve less competitive than other software firms.
So
> what's the point for us software programmers to spend money to buy
something
> that will reduce our competitiveness to other competitor?
Spend the money you saved by developing in .NET, on buying a few key
customers Windows upgrades?
I think there's a danger that projects start off with a requirement to
support a 7-year-old OS. By the time dev is complete (and into v2 or v3
versions, the first version that a lot of people will buy), the OS is 10
years old, and the choice of dev tools is now a stone around your neck. The
60% figure has turned to 10% and it's time for re-engineering that could
have been avoided by a little forward-thinking. (Of course, the business
case for the re-engineer specifies NT as the minimum instead of '95, and the
cycle continues).
>
> For WinNT, the situation is rather obvious. Lots of companies especially
> banks still using them. If we exclude support for WinNT, we maybe missing
> some protential customers.
The question really is why have they stuck with NT? Often it's for fear of
breaking something. You sometimes get customers telling you that the program
has to run on NT because that's what they use, and then when they come to
install it, they won't put it on one of their 'stable' machines, so they
install it on a new XP box anyway.
Stu
>
> "Marc Scheuner [MVP ADSI]" <m.scheuner@inova.SPAMBEGONE.ch> ???
> news:872ae05mp4u8v49p5k1laeiee9a3499th6@4ax.com ???...
> > >It'll be best if Microsoft could extend the support to make our life
> easier.
> >
> > Yes - it would be nice if they still supported MS-DOS 2.x, too ! .....
> > :-))
> >
> > They're not here to make your life easier - they're a company, they
> > want to make money, so they have to stick to the mainstream markets.
> > Win9x is really no longer mainstream, in most commercial environments.
> > Get over it. Upgrade to XP. Yes, it costs money - it'll also save you
> > a lot of grief, time (for support and stuff), and frustration.
> >
> > Marc
> > ================================================================
> > Marc Scheuner May The Source Be With You!
> > Bern, Switzerland m.scheuner(at)inova.ch
>
>
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