Re: fax/scan for Vista Home Premium

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You're off by quite a bit. The thread was about AIO devices and their party software. It had nothing to do with WFS. The removal of fax from less expensive versions of Vista has been covered ad nauseum here and is beyond being a dead horse. I have no idea why you felt the need to beat it yet again in an off topic post.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Smegner" <SteveSmegner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72E6C9-8F39-4DE3-89EE-E0D4D5A2AC6A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
This thread is about a complaint that Microsoft removed Windows Fax and Scan
from Vista Home Premium. My post is spot on because it covers that topic.

Your post of:
Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did was
remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive versions of
Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post has nothing
at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your third
party AIO products.
So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support if you
don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error.


Is off topic because you claim that Microsoft took nothing away from you and
pointed to some 3rd party vendor as the problem. Microsoft DID take away
Windows fax and scan from the Vista Home sku's as compared to the XP Home
sku's which is what the original poster was complaining about. Pointing the
finger at the user for not reading the fine print or to 3rd party AOI
products is misleading and false. Even if I install a fax modem (which I
tried on my machine) Vista home SKu's will work just fine with the modem for
connecting to the Internet. However it is missing the pieces allow faxing to
work through that same modem unless you move to Ultimate or a business SKU.

Don't chastise people for complaining that Microsoft removed functionality
and make you pay a lot more bucks to get it when that is exactly what they
did.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Quite well known to everyone here and not the topic of this thread. Exactly
what was your point? What did you think you were correcting?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Smegner" <SteveSmegner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:55469013-E0AF-48FB-9715-DFA08AC7AA3F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I am wide awake and know of what I speak.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/fax-scan.aspx > is
> pretty clear. I stated I had a fax server and could not use it in Vista
> Home
> edition. It had nothing to do with fax modems analog or otherwise.
> Whenever I
> try to access the remote fax server (fax print function) from Vista > Home I
> am
> directed to the Windows Fax and Scan function which is not available in
> Vista
> Home. Microsoft has decided that the average home user would not need > the
> capability to scan or fax. Since Enterprise SKU is not available to
> consumers
> only the Ultimate Edition is available for the home user to fax and > scan.
> And
> that requires paying much more than the average price for Vista Home.
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> Wake up. AIO support has never had anything to do with the Windows Fax
>> module. Everyone knows full well which Vista versions include fax >> support
>> for standalone fax modems. No need to restate the obvious.
>> -- >> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "Steve Smegner" <SteveSmegner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >> message
>> news:1CBA9B96-1A3F-4EB7-9923-DDA336EC73A0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > No Russ you have it wrong. "Windows Fax and Scan" functionality is >> > ONLY
>> > included in the Enterprise and Ultimate Editions. I worked for MSFt >> > for
>> > nearly 10 years. They are monitizing functionality. The >> > functionality
>> > is
>> > on
>> > the disc but unavailable unless you key in a PID that matches an
>> > Enterprise
>> > or Ultimate SKU. I have a fax server that works just fine on my XP >> > and
>> > Vista
>> > Ultimate machine. On the laptop I am typing on now I have Vista Home
>> > Premium.
>> > When I try and use the fax server I get a prompt that fax client
>> > software
>> > is
>> > not installed and do I want to install it. If I click Yes it pops up
>> > and
>> > tells me some DLL is missing. The option to install the >> > functionality
>> > is
>> > not
>> > available in this SKU. I have to install the Ultimate Edition on >> > this
>> > machine
>> > before that functionality becomes available. I went through this on >> > my
>> > other
>> > Vista machines that originally had Home Premium installed. Same >> > error.
>> > Same
>> > issue. When I entered an Ultimate PID the suddenly the machine would
>> > find
>> > the
>> > missing DLL and install the functionality.
>> >
>> > This has nothing to do with 3rd party vendor fax products or >> > software.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Microsoft took nothing away from you. The only thing Microsoft did >> >> was
>> >> remove its analog fax modem software from the less expensive >> >> versions
>> >> of
>> >> Vista. That's not even what you're using. Accordingly, your post >> >> has
>> >> nothing
>> >> at all to do with Vista or Microsoft. It has only to do with your
>> >> third
>> >> party AIO products.
>> >> So stand tall. Read the manuals. Ask the manufacturers for support >> >> if
>> >> you
>> >> don't understand them. Your issue is 100% end user error.
>> >> -- >> >> Russ Valentine
>> >> [MVP-Outlook]
>> >> "Donald" <Donald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:6EB63A2A-79AB-4710-8F6D-8355A704C2A5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > For months I have been dogging my PC Manufacturer and the makers >> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > three
>> >> > all-in-one (printer/scan/fax/copy) units I've gone through for >> >> > their
>> >> > lack
>> >> > of
>> >> > interest in my inability to scan to a fax, e-mail or just a plain
>> >> > file
>> >> > document or picture. I see why so many of my friends (son & >> >> > sister
>> >> > included)
>> >> > have gone Mac. I'm not sure I can continue to stand tall and
>> >> > support
>> >> > you
>> >> > much longer after taking away a function so basic to every >> >> > computer
>> >> > user.
>> >> >
>> >> > Donald
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ree" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm thoroughly DISGUSTED with MicroSoft for removing this >> >> >> feature
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> program. I used this feature frequently. If I had known this
>> >> >> prior
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> recently purchasing this system and upgrade--I probably would >> >> >> not
>> >> >> have.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Microsoft, you've gotten so big that you seem to feel it's okay >> >> >> to
>> >> >> 'dog-out'
>> >> >> your loyal customers without any negative ramifications to you.
>> >> >> NOT
>> >> >> COOL!!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----------------
>> >> >> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds >> >> >> to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, >> >> >> click
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> "I
>> >> >> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> >> follow
>> >> >> this
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>> >> >> and
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=c9267311-41d0-4d2f-a9fb-7cbbd1df54c8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.print_fax_scan
>> >>
>> >>
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