Re: Vista ICS flaky network

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Thanks Jack, I appreciate the suggestions. I would hope that ICS is better
on Vista, but so far I'm disappointed that
BUT...I'm still looking for these answers:
1. Why won't Vista communicate reliably with a router that I've verified
has nothing wrong with it? Surely there's SOME way I can turn off or bypass
whatever is blocking my ability to reach router configuration across a static
IP setup.

2. Why won't my LAN connection hold a configuration? It gets re-detected
as a Public network every time my dial-up connection hangs up & re-connects.

Initially I thought things would be fine. After I first put the new system
in place, for the first day I could see the public share on the WAN from my
LAN, from my Windows 2000 box; next day it became impossible. I WAS able to
get to the internet from my LAN boxes too, at first, but this was on & off
with the hang-up & re-connect, automatic re-configuring situation screwing it
up.
There MUST be a way - is it just that Vista knows the difference between
supplying an IP to a computer vs. a router, and has been programmed not to do
it, while all the previous Windows versions would? Why did it work a couple
times but won't stay configured?

I'll probably try the AnalogProxy software. I used to run something like
that before ICS was included. But, if it only works on a LAN and not on the
WAN side, I might as well try ICS on the LAN side only anyway. I'm currently
trying to do that, but so far it isn't working that way either.

"Jack-MVP" wrote:

Hi
Actually my experience shows that ICS is better on Vista than on the
previous Client OS.
Never the less two solution come to mind.
!. Find an old Router that has serial port (The old SMC BR7004 are excellent
Router and have a serial port), and use an External serial port modem.
2. Sometimes this free software Router would do better than ICS (YMMV),
http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/AnalogX_Proxy/axproxy.html
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

"Userlevel6" <Userlevel6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi! Sorry if this seems long, I'm trying to be as brief as I can...

I just built myself a new Vista Ultimate with SP1 system to take the place
of my previous entertainment system, Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005.
In my home network, the Entertainment System box is my gateway to the
internet, via a dial-up connection. I'm in an area where I can't get DSL
or
cable.

I've successfully used ICS on 3 different Windows builds over the years,
from Win98 to WinME to WinXP, all setup on the WAN port of routers. This
effectively isolates the Windows box running ICS from the other two
computers
I run on the LAN. My WAN IP range is thus controlled by the DHCP service
built into ICS, and I'm free to use anothe IP range on my LAN instead of
192.168.0.x that ICS assigns. There is only this system with it's dial-up
connection on the WAN side; the system is essentially behaving like a slow
DSL modem.

Here's the problem: my brand new Vista Ultimate entertainment system will
not talk reliably to any of the 3 routers I've tried, on EITHER LAN OR
WAN!
2 of the 3 routers I have used with my previous XP-based entertainment
system, and they behave just fine. What is it about ICS in Vista that is
preventing me from even accessing the setup for my routers? I've tried
turning off Windows firewall, disabling IPv6 and Network Discovery, etc.
until I'm blue in the face, but nothiing helps. Even if I connect Vista
to
the LAN side and set proper static IP to reach router configuration, I'm
denied! :( I bought a new Belkin wireless N router today, thinking it HAS
to
be a compatibility issue, but even this "Vista ready" router will NOT let
me
even configure it using the Vista OS.
I sure hope someone can give me some answers that help me understand. I
hate to think I might have to put my XP Media Center box back in the
dial-up
sharing position just to get my internet connection back to my other
computers again.

Could one of my issues be that Vista sees BOTH sides of my router, causing
a
DHCP conflict of some sort, since DHCP is used to supply my LAN with IP's?
Well shoot, it can't even be that because even if I connect only Vista to
the
LAN side and no other connections to the router at all, I still can't
configure it. This goes for a D-Link DI-524 rev. C with most updated
firmware, or a Linksys BEFW11S4, or a brand-new Belkin N.

Ahhh, the frustation of learning the hard way...


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