Re: Windows 7 email program?
- From: "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:50:37 -0800
Without the .reg hacks, Windows Mail will not be called up
automatically when you click on a "Email Us" link on a web page
(this is technically known as the MailTo protocol).
Also, if you are in another program such as Windows Live Photo Gallery,
which has an Email command on its toolbar, that command won't work
because Windows Mail is not designated to be the default email program
in Windows 7.
The latest version of the .reg hacks worked for me. But who knows what
Microsoft will do in the future to thwart it? I have to maintain a working
copy of Windows Mail so I can properly assist users, but if that were not
the case, I'd probably convert 100% to Windows Live Mail.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eVtQyrPYKHA.4360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gary, your advice is excellent. My email is working, with all of my.
contacts and my folder structures. I had to export .iaf files to avoid
having to enter passwords for my 16 email accounts. Whew!
But based upon the problems that poppa bear says he had with the hacks, I
probably should leave what I have. What is an example of what I will be
missing? A big deal, or just a minor annoyance occasionally?
Today I did an in-place update from Vista 32 bit Home Premium to W7 32 bit
Home Premium, using the CDs that Acer sent because I purchased one of their
8 hour battery 15.6" 5810T laptops last month for $450. It took forever,
and I had to turn the laptop off a couple times, then start it back up. It
picked up where it had been stuck, every time. That concerned me, but the
results appear OK. I finished by doing their many updates. All of the
applications work. And since my contacts and emails are where they were, I
suspect the same technique will work there,and I'd rather use that laptop as
my email machine.
Thanks again, and could I trust the hacks, or learn from poppa bear's
problems?
Paul
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OmJZrDnXKHA.3504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Your assumption is not correct.
The in-place upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 will not bring along
Vista's Windows Mail. Microsoft has deliberately disabled
Windows Mail in Windows 7. Only the procedure I gave you will
resurrect it.
The file names in the forum are clickable links. Clicking on those
should start the download process.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks, Gary. I won't need to move Windows Mail to W7. It will be there,
like all of my other applications, since I'm doing an in-place upgrade,
not
a total install.
You pointed me to that W7 forum before, but I don't see how to download
the
two registry fixes. I'm apparently not understanding something very
basic,
but it's Greek to me.
If WM eventually stops working, I'll move to T-bird or something else -
not
WLM - that won't work for me.
Best regards,
Paul
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to
something
else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working
Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.
Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-6..html#post309014
Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handle
all the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic mail
functionality.
Be aware that future Windows Updates may render WM inoperable in
Windows 7, as will running SFC.exe. For that reason I recommend also
installing Windows Live Mail, so you will have an immediate fallback
if WM fails.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Gary,
I am waiting until I have a fix (hack?) so my Vista's Windows Mail will
work
properly when I upgrade (not new install) to W7. I purchased an Acer
slightly before W7's availability, that included an upgrade to W7 when it
becomes available. I got my upgrade CD - Vista Home Premium 32 bit to W7
Home premium 32 bit - yesterday.
Since the upgrade will preserve my programs, including Windows Mail, the
hack should let me continue to use Windows Mail with all my contracts,
messages in various folders, etc.
Can you point me to the hack?
Thanks,
Paul
"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'm not sure where you are seeing a conflict in my statements.
Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail can be used simultaneously,
and in Vista they are both fully functional.
Windows Mail will only run in Windows 7 after employing the hack I
previously mentioned.
Windows Mail newsgroups mode under Windows 7 is fully functional,
and I am using it in that fashion right now.
Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as far as
the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the average
user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo links don't work.
Furthermore, future Windows 7 updates may further degrade WM's
limited compatibility with that OS, since Microsoft has no intention
of supporting WM functionality under Windows 7.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
"CWLee" <cdubyalee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Gary, I'm confused by your statements. On October 11,
above, you said:
"Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7. You
don't need to do anything special. ... ".
Then today, October 12, you say:
"There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail
in
Win7. ... There are limitations to that hack. For one
thing, it doesn't allow WM to be set as the default mail
client."
To make things murkier for me, t-4-2 wrote, on October 11:
"WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the
Default program, and each time you open the non-default one,
you'll be asked if you want to change it to default. Just
click NO."
Further clarification appreciated, not just from Gary and
t-4-2, but from anyone with experience using both MW and
MLM.
Thanks.
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