Re: Don't want new mail automatically selected
- From: "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:13:04 -0700
It is not real clear what the antivirus programs do to protect us. They often are forced to use undocumented techniques. So look at it this way. If a virus or other malicious software were to come from anywhere other than email, we would want the malware blocked regardless of where it came from. So the same the same techniques used to protect us from other sources are still protective when malware comes from email. At least that is the theory and if it (very generic it) did not work then we would hear about it.
Email scanning probably was necessary years ago, but Microsoft has caught up so that it is not necessary now.
"tabbster" <tabbster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:C8422532-3578-448A-B67C-EB4373F8BFB8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I apologize if I offended the MVPs. I really only wanted to know if there is
a way to keep the last read email selected when new mail arrives. I should
not have explained why, I guess. I appreciate (most) of the MVPs and their
dedication to the readers of the various groups, and learn a lot from them.
I've been using PCs since the DOS days and consider myself knowledgeable,
subscribing to various newsletters, etc. But it is very confusing (to me)
when in one paragraph I'm told I should disable my anti-virus software for
email, and in another paragraph am told that (Norton) will scan my email.
How does it do this if I've disabled it????? To what extent does MS Windows
Vista (or other versions) do this? I don't mean to be a smart-a##, I just
don't get it.
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
If you don't want to take advice from MS-MVPs, I'm not sure why you
are here. AFAIK, all the regular responders here advise disabling
antivirus email scanning.
The email scanning function is included in most AV products
because all the competitors include it, and it makes for another bullet
on the box for non-savvy buyers.
Even Symantec (Norton), the originator of the email scanning concept
admits that it is redundant and unnecessary:
"Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email Scanning?
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email
and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto- Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions."
See http://tinyurl.com/bhsva or
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/d4578f66d8f00a0188256d4e006aaa94/4ba5fc8ef939c44c88256c7500723cf0?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
"tabbster" <tabbster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2EE2FF5F-59BA-4338-B020-12959FB8B455@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thanks for your advice Sam. Actually, my information comes from an old
> newsgroup item from years and years ago, probably back to Windows 95. > It
> seemed a good idea to be that careful. And so many folks (MS MVPs in > other
> groups) tell us to disable email scanning from our antivirus programs > (advice
> I do NOT take). And of course, I just don't want to view HTML in > non-HTML
> mode; that's no fun! So I guess if I want the neat way of viewing, I > have to
> put up with the inconvenience of using the Hide Preview Pane when > scanning
> incoming mail and using the "back door" to see it. I have been > extremely
> fortunate in that I've never had a virus attack from anywhere - email,
> attachments, or web browsing and downloading. I keep my antivirus > software
> up-to-date and am very, very careful about the websites I visit. > So......if
> it's not broke, I'm not going to attempt any additional fix. But if > there was
> just a way to hold the selection to the last item viewed in Windows > Mail,
> like it always used to be, it sure would be easier for me.
> Kathy
>
> "Sam Hobbs" wrote:
>
>> You can safely assume that Microsoft is more up-to-date than the >> people you
>> get your information from. If Microsoft software was as vulnerable as >> you
>> have the impression it is, you would definitely hear about it from >> very
>> reliable sources.
>>
>> The main way that spammers know you are reading spam is by use of an >> image
>> in the message. This works if you view a HTML message using HTML >> format, and
>> most messages are in HTML format and most people view using HTML >> format.
>> However this is where Microsoft is ahead of your friends. Microsoft >> email
>> software such as Windows Mail have an option that causes images to not >> be
>> seen by default, and that disables the mechanism that spammers usually >> use
>> to know that you are viewing their message. Spammers put links in >> messages
>> to images that don't exist and the fact that the image does not exist
>> provides them an easy way to determine that you are viewing the >> message. I
>> could be a little more technical but I hope you don't need a technical
>> explanation.
>>
>> So as long as you don't mess with the default security settings that
>> Microsoft provides for WM and IE and as long as you have a good >> antivirus
>> program, you can trust that there are enough technical people that >> won't
>> allow software to be as vulnerable as some people will say it is.
>>
>> People tell wild stories. Someone told me that there has been a cure >> for
>> cancer for many years but Jewish doctors won't allow the medical >> people to
>> use it. It is easy to tell stories such as that but if you think about >> it
>> ..... well I should get back to computer stuff.
>>
>>
>> "tabbster" <tabbster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:961671AF-A5E6-413B-B865-1CF17D2A6BEC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Using Vista Home and Windows Mail. Just d/l'd IE 8 and now in >> > Windows
>> > Mail,
>> > the new mail is automatically selected and shows up in the Preview >> > Pane.
>> > Before, I could select an old piece of mail and when new mail came >> > in, it
>> > did
>> > not get selected until I chose to do this. I want this feature >> > back, but
>> > don't know how to get it. The reason? It is my understanding that >> > once a
>> > piece of mail is in the preview screen, the sender (spam or >> > otherwise
>> > undesirable character), knows you have received it; or if in html >> > format,
>> > it
>> > can open a virus. I know I can turn off the Preview and do have a >> > button
>> > on
>> > the top menu to do this, but would prefer to not have to do this >> > whenever
>> > going into the email program. Also, is it true that by looking at >> > the
>> > Properties (instead of the Preview Pane) of an unopened email to >> > view its
>> > content, that you are safe from any virus embedded?
>>
>>
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