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"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:hbhnra$msa$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
http://www.ubuntu.com/ and it's free and comes with access to thousands of free programs!

What you can do with Ubuntu:


Not much.

I meant a you in general, not you specifically.



Email


MS-DOS can email.

True but no one uses that anymore and XP, Vista and Win 7 can do email and infect the shit out of your computer when you try to open the latest "oowerpoint" from some "friend".



Surf the web


MS-DOS can surf the web.


True but no one uses that anymore and XP, Vista and Win 7 can surf the web and collect all kinds of blue meanies on the way.



Burn CDs.


With junk quality burning software.

It's better, quicker, more precise and easier than any program to burn CD/DVDs in Windows.



Rip CDs.


Mostly rip-off copyrighted CDs is more like it.

No, you can stick an audio cd in and rip it into .flac format, something that Windows Media Player can't even dream of doing.



Listen to music using the computer.


Windows 95 can do that, Windows 3.1 for that matter.

And a transistor radio from the sixties. This list is to let people know that Ubuntu can do everything they do with Windows, safer, quicker and more efficient.



Watch vidoes/DVDs.


Ha! *Maybe* watch a movie.

I've never had a problem watching and DVDs on my Ubuntu machine. What have you been smoking, bella donna?



Scan and print.


If the printer drivers are compiled into the kernel. Even then you probably will have to give up some of the printers features and functionality.

I plugged my HP all in one to my Ubuntu machine and four clicks later it was installed, ready to print and scan with HP's control center for Linux. You are soooooooooooo ill informed.



Spreadsheets.


In second rate spreadsheet programs.

Your opinion. Can we deal with facts or are you unfamiliar with facts and live by lies and MS FUD?



Presentations


In second rate presentation programs.

Your opinion. Can we deal with facts or are you unfamiliar with facts and live by lies and MS FUD?


Newsgroups.


From the quality of your posts this is a dubious boast on your part.

Not one boast here.



HTML editing.


Notepad can do that.

Most people can't use notepad and use something like Front Page or another program that doesn't require knowing HTML.



Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.


Cheesy flat games that smack of the Windows 3.1 days. Let's face it, if you want to game, get Windows or an XBox.

Or run them in Wine.



Make videos.


Sure sure .. again with second rate stuff .. good luck.

Your opinion. Can we deal with facts or are you unfamiliar with facts and live by lies and MS FUD?



Download photos from a camera and organize them.


Again, good luck. 'Hope the camera drivers are there.

Don't know how to take a memory chip out of a camera, eh? Ask your grandmother.



Translations from one language to another.


Just visit Google dot com for that. A computer running Windows 95 can achieve the same.

It's handy to have it as an application.



Use a dictionary program that's much faster than using a book


See immediately above.

You too.



Learn how to touch type with a touch type learning program.


You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not. There's a program where you can teach yourself how to touch type. Are you a hunt and peck fan?



Edit images.


Let me guess, Gimp? It's almost pathetic how outdated it is. However Gimp the one and only image editing software generally available to the Linux crowd.

Not the only imaging program and GIMP is constantly being updated and improved.



Send and receive a fax.


Windows 95 can do that.

I know. I used to use Windows 95 for that. This list is to let people know that Ubuntu can do everything they do with Windows, safer, quicker and more efficiently.



Take screenshots.


You mean Linux implements the Prt Scr key? So did Windows 95.

I know. I used to use Windows 95 for that. This list is to let people know that Ubuntu can do everything they do with Windows, safer, quicker and more efficiently.



Create .PDF files.


Up-to-date .PDF files?? Maybe.

No maybe about it. PDFEditor works great.



Create and use a data base.


MySQL anyone? Sorry, but Microsoft database software is superior.

And most people don't need the extra features. For most people, Open Office is just fine.



Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.


Linux only implements messaging so you can first ask each other how to get things to work with Linux and then cry on each others shoulders when you find you can't.

Perhaps that's what YOU use IM for. I most certainly do not.



and much more!


Yes, typical distros of Linux come with thousands of half-baked alpha-ware quality junk that passes as "software".

Your ill informed opinion.



What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:


Bull. There's lots to worry about with UNIX and UNIX clones such as Linux.

Like what?



WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,


Not likely if you don't steal your software.

Wrong and Microsoft says you're wrong. They even set up a special WGA forum to help those people who received false positives from WGA there were so many incidences.



DRM,


or steal your music. Even then it is easily circumvented by not using DRM'd music.

Not the DRM I was talking about.



Viruses,


Don't be so sure.

Oh, I'm sure and you can't prove otherwise.



Root kits,


UNIX and UNIX clones such as Linux are the origin of the term "rooted" LOL

But Windows gets rooted and Linux doesn't, go figure.



Spyware,


No?


and
Malware.


Sure sure. Linux is riddled with vulnerabilities. The errata List for RedHat Linux (a premier distro) is as long as my arm and then some.

Can you cite proof or do we just have to take your word?



The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:


The only security in Linux is its obscurity.


1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and


Linux distros will often have lousy patch systems. Ubuntu's is probably not all that great seeing as they've never come up with a good one for any UNIX or UNIX clone such as Linux.

It's worked on this machine and I've upgraded to each version without doing a clean install. Try going from XP to Windows 7. Oops, gotta do a clean install. Recently, I installed XP on another machine and it was THREE WEEKS before the IE and MRT updates made the scene to be installed through Auto Updates. You say download them, a little yellow shield appears for a second and doesn't come back for three weeks. Yeah, Windows updates is wonderful.



anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
being compromised.


With ten zillion different distros out there and countless Linux libraries, there's no "central updating source" in Linux. Whereas Microsoft does have a centralized updating system for its software.

Don't know about repositories, eh?



2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your


Bull.

True.



password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.


Bull, because it is Windows 7 that has the modern security system, not Linux. With Windows 7's version of UAC, many if not all privileges problems are completely solved. With Linux's ancient system, it's the old problematic "either / or" security system .. where one is either root or user.

Face it, Windows is much more vulnerable and the proof is that hundreds of thousands of Windows machine are in net bots hurling millions of spam crap into your in-box.



Alias


Please don't cry because Windows 7 is better (as in way better). OK Alias? Get yourself a kleenex tissue.


Saucy

I plan to use both. Windows 7 because I'll have to support it and it can play games well and Ubuntu for real work and play.

You, OTOH, will only benefit from Windows. Too bad for you, not me, chum.

Alias



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