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For US Army Signal Corps, McAfee use to be the most trusted. Not in the last 5 years though.

You know this how?/

US Army Signal Corps. 6 years. Active, 1996-2001. Army National Guard- Personnel Division - 2002 - 2005.
Army Air Force Exchange Services HR Tech 2008, US AF Family Readiness Data Resource Center Support 2009

Would you like more? I have been in the industry, both Civilian and military, direct hire or Contractor, since 1994.

I graduated from high school when Apple IIe and TRS-80 were the most common system, and Commodore had not even launched the Amiga line yet. I learned Programming of Basic on a TRS-80 and learned to test circuit boards on XT.

And to think that I intended to be a liberal artist working my music, writing and drawing/painting/pastels, and a horticultural expert. I guess the fact that my dad was working systems for the US Navy from the 60s until the early 80s rubbed off on me. Now I spend my time supporting, consulting, and training people and companies. I just decided that the life of programming was not for me because I hate scouring lines of code for hours on end. :: chuckles ::

The years in the Army triggered my interest in Information Security so I find it interesting.

"Word of Mouth" means repeating other peoples comments or feelings without documented proof. Now, if you like, I can provide you with the McAfee archives and forums links, as well as various tech forums, where people have had issues with McAfee. I can even provide you with links to support for Comcast, who provided McAfee as their AV choice so that you can look over the fact that over the past 5 years they have had increasing issues with the McAfee AV.

No, I am not saying that McAfee is bad stuff, it has just not performed up to par by most SECURITY SPECIALIZED GROUPS standards. It still ranks as one of the most retail popular, but then so does McDonalds, and that just proves that popular does not always mean best for you.

Just like, despite what some of thier commercials imply, Apple is not virus or worry free, which I also know by 5.5 year of experience supporting.

So, now that you have my qualifications, are you satified?

ShadoShyrke
(AKA James Walker)



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"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:672DA8F8-C798-4EAE-8B35-3932B363540F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I guess you did not bother to read the About Us section of that site:

About Us
For over a decade, ICSA Labs, an independent division of Verizon Business, has been the security industry's central authority for research, intelligence, and certification testing of products. ICSA Labs sets standards for information security products and certifies over 95% of the installed base of anti-virus, firewall, IPSec VPN, cryptography, SSL VPN, network IPS, anti-spyware and PC firewall products commonly deployed in the world today.

I did read the about us section. That's why I said they're a division of Verizon, which sounds like something which could make them biased. I didn't see anywhere that says what ICSA stands for.

What this shows is that McAfee failed the monthly Virus Detection test that the lab runs: i.e. it did not detect all of the virus/malware that are required for a ICSA certificate, which means that a number of organizations, including state and federal, will not trust it.

That makes no sense, since you say they failed a test "required for a ICSA certificate". I guess you missed the link in my response to the page where they say McAfee software is certfiied. That also doesn't answer my question as to what "fail" means. What sort of virus/malware did it not detect? Was it tested using the latest updates?

For US Army Signal Corps, McAfee use to be the most trusted. Not in the last 5 years though.

You know this how?/

It seems that you are just arguing and not debating. You have given no basis for your reasoning other than word of mouth suppositions because you could not work one program's network connection.

I'm not sure what you're referring to with "word of mouth suppositions", since all I mentioned was that from my personal experience as well as everyone I know, McAfee hasn't caused any problems and TrendMicro has.

I can appreciate your own opinion, but that is most of what it seems you are passing on. As you have proven, I could pass you links with reviews from independent labs all over the world, and probably even he ISSA, and you would stick to your guns over one program. That is your right and your choice.

If all you care about is "links with reviews", here's one.
http://www.v3.co.uk/vnunet/news/2195580/trend-micro-fails-anti-malware
I'd bet every AV software has positive and negative reviews from various sources.
My first concern is whether the AV program prevents productivity. Once it passes that test, we'll look into what sort of malware it's able to detect and block. TrendMicro failed.
Productivity test is simple:
Does it prevent other valid programs (besides other AV programs) from functioning properly?
Does it ask users questions they wouldn't necessarily know the answer to, or shouldn't need to care about?

Personally, I will stick with what I know from a very diverse experience over the past 25 years and from the techs and developers that I work with on a daily basis.

Have a great weekend.

ShadoShyrke
(AKA James Walker)


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"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:530DB2A6-C4D0-4FED-A7E1-949A3BDFD2E5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To support my assertions on the possibilities of McAfee not paying attention or catching something, please look over this information from ICSA
http://www.icsalabs.com/icsa/topic.php?tid=d3a8$95695e0b-40700fe6$8dd1-8fc093ea

This has gone on for three years now with McAfee. The user interface is easier that some other AVs and Security software, but the actually effectiveness of the work done has to be up to par.

ShadoShyrke
(AKA James Walker)

That link means nothing to me. It says McAfee failed some test from a division of Verizon with no reason given. The conclusion is Verizon hates McAfee for some unknown reason, though according to their other page (http://www.icsalabs.com/icsa/product.php?tid=dfgdf$gdhkkjk-kkkk) they certified it anyway?
I don't see anywhere that says what ICSA stands for either.
If you're trying to debate, try something more than "some unknown and likely biased company claims your product failed a test".





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