Re: Which Anti Virus Works Best With Vista

To support my assertions on the possibilities of McAfee not paying attention or catching something, please look over this information from ICSA
http://www.icsalabs.com/icsa/topic.php?tid=d3a8$95695e0b-40700fe6$8dd1-8fc093ea

This has gone on for three years now with McAfee. The user interface is easier that some other AVs and Security software, but the actually effectiveness of the work done has to be up to par.

ShadoShyrke
(AKA James Walker)


"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u32pDgLAKHA.2604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>"but anyone who has supported them for the past 2 decades is still >skeptical"

This is an obvious exaggeration, since that would mean from 1989 to today, and until 2000, all of the successful tech that I knew had Norton (Symantec) on the top of their list as the best.

It does suck because it disconnected my "trusted" program from the internet. If your coffee maker makes coffee but explodes if you use columbian beans while no other coffee maker does, it sucks as a product even if you personally never use columbian beans so you haven't blown it up yet.

But it did not "blow up", another obvious exaggeration, because it did not freeze up and lock up your computer, or fail use as a whole. Instead it gummed up on that specific program and only restricted that program.

It occurs to me that maybe it found another security risk with that program that McAfee did not catch. Or maybe, as with Cryptic Studios, the software producer had something in their script that conflicts with something that Trend settings protect. Or maybe that program needed an additional porting that you did not catch and that the software publisher did not supply to Trend Micro. This happens all the time.

In the current PC market, there is no way to get completely seamless operations with ever producers driver, scripts or program at the same time. You can get close if intercompany relations and communications are good, but not perfect.

Again, I just passed on facts, and then said what I prefer to use, and what I have used. Each of my posts have been mainly experience and facts. I am not making a plug or pledge for anyone, just offering information based on reproducable research and testing.

ShadoShyrke
(AKA James Walker)


"Eric" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u972Z7KAKHA.5092@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If TrendMicro doesn't "focus on home", they should tell Best Buy to stop installing it on new PCs with Vista Home Premium.
It does suck because it disconnected my "trusted" program from the internet. If your coffee maker makes coffee but explodes if you use columbian beans while no other coffee maker does, it sucks as a product even if you personally never use columbian beans so you haven't blown it up yet.

Again I said "I fortunately haven't had to work with Norton products lately", so hopefully for their sake it doesn't suck anymore, but anyone who has supported them for the past 2 decades is still skeptical. The last time I heard of someone running Norton it was conflicting with another program. We got new PCs for work from IBM with Norton installed. We uninstalled it and installed McAfee.

"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:DF74D9A4-0915-45BC-B762-F5DBE4B615CF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Um,

You do understand that I am a techie. I make my living on supporting both home and corporate users and environments.

Something to note, TrendMicro focuses on business, not home. Norton and Symantec are the same, Norton is their home product and Symantec Securities is how they market their business products.

Most of the techies that I work with in the industry do not talk down Norton's. The people that talk down Norton's are mainly gamers and game companies. Yet, since the 2003 versions, I have not seen the issues that most of those companies and gamers complain about. In testing on 16 different machine configurations, WoW, Everquest2, Lineage2, Command and Conquer, Age of Empires 2 & 3, Two Worlds, and even Maple Story had no issues. Game that had issues: City of Heroes, who's publisher knew there was a script change needed but prefered to tell users to turn off their AV instead of fixing their script. It saved them programming cost.

TrendMicro does not suck, it just did not suit your needs and your specific setup.

ShadoShryke
(AKA James Walker)
15 years of Computer Support (home and business)
MSPP Registered, A+ Cert, MS Office Cert, BSIT: Information Systems Security



"Eric" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u0zzboKAKHA.5780@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2C9CF229-976A-4623-8716-39E3CEB2E73D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There are a number of companies/organizations that review AV programs for overall efficiency, reliability, memory use, guarantees and cost.

You might find it interesting that Norton and TrendMicro have been in the top three for 4-5 years running now. Microsoft made it into the top 10 this past year with One Live Care this past year on two registers. McAfee has dropped to number 5 or lower on 4 different registers in the past two years.

TrendMicro sucks.
My new laptop from Best Buy came with TrendMicro Internet Security installed (with a free 6 month subscription, after that you pay for updates).
I tried to play a game on the internet and it let me play for a few minutes then disconnected me. I added the game program to it's "trusted programs" and it still disconnected me. I uninstalled it and installed McAfee (provided at no extra cost from my ISP) and haven't had any issues since.

I fortunately haven't had to mess with any Norton software lately but it's still the number one answer when you ask a techie "what AV program is most likely to conflict with other programs?" AV programs are useless if they're constantly asking the user what they should allow or if they're preventing a program you want to run from running properly.






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