Re: CAN'T EXTRACT ISO FILE
- From: Ghosty Goo™ <Ghosty.Goo.3kv9re@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:47:49 +0530
Heartily/Hardily sophistry aside -i'm quite sure the confusion is at
least half-rooted in "hardy" which is to be robust or sturdy, steadfast
etc and thus -Hardily Agree- is perfectly cromulent *chuckles* as it
would mean literally to agree robustly. However "agree whole-hardily" is
certainly a syntax error!
Since i'm eagerly awaiting any kindly bright spark to reply to my own
personal plight and pressuming i'm not presenting any forum faux pas i'm
unaware of i might as well add my threpenny bit.
One thing stands out to me in this thread as conflicting and very
confusing* if you are a newbie to disc images and the burning thereof
(which we ALL were once). I'm not at all interested in getting into a
free vs. registered software argument- i use a plethora of apps for
basically doing the same job since i have huge drive space and an almost
fanatical lust for new apps. None of the applications which have been
mentioned thus far in this thread, in my opinion, are any better or
worse at doing the job required. Some of them are more aesthetically
pleasing if cosmetics is your thing. If i had to choose one to warn you
away from it would be Roxio, i find it to be too intrusive and once it
gets it's roots planted in your hardware it's an absolute headache to
remove. That is only my opinion though and my mate who got Roxio
software bundled with his Packard Bell *chuckle* swears by it so you see
it's very much "horses for courses". Find one you like or get them all
like me heh.
*The confusing bit- ISO/RAR. I'm going to be frank here and i might get
flamed but i feel this is important: *if you do not know how a .rar is
different from an .iso you really -need- to make sure your unrar app
(winrar etc) is NOT associated with .iso files.* If it -is- the case and
your unrar app is associated with .iso it is going to cause you untold
confusion (especially when you consider that -some- .iso files come
compressed in .rar format). There's no easy way to explain this to a
layman but i shall endeavour.
Let us say, for instance, your friend has transferred you by whatever
means a cd compilation of family photo's, there are many many ways to do
this but let's assume friend has been acquainting himself with some
slideshow maker or somesuch and has decided to send you this cd worth of
family photos in ISO format ie. you simply open your CD/DVD Image
Burning Software and (mostly these days) just drag and drop the file
friend sent you into the UI (or in a old skool stylie) do somesuch click
file > open > browse to friend's file and select. After some pretty
basic yes/no decisions your dvd/cd burner should start to chug away as
it does as it was created to do.
You don't really need to concern yourself with how this actually works,
it's like olives and pimentos (they taste good so who cares how the
pimento gets in there?). Once the burning process is finished you can
pop your cd/dvd of family photos into a compatible dvd player and watch
the slideshow *exactly* how your friend conceived it.
Now, let's say that this .iso of family photos is back at square 1 and
has not yet been sent as you and your friend are discussing the best way
to transfer the file for you since (for the sake of example) you have
dialup 3G wireless or some other form of 'not-so-stable' internet.
Consider: if this is a cd .iso it could be upto 700MB and if it is a dvd
iso it could be anything upto 4700MB! One thing you definately do not
want is for the transfer to fail ¾ of the way through, so how do we
safeguard against this? There is one popular way which i still use to
get files to my old man who hasn't yet figured out broadband and only
uses msn messenger to transfer files (a prime example of potentially a
wasted afternoon's file transfering, never good).
Let's take the story back to this .iso file we've got- it's 450MB big
and at 5.1kps would take a mighty long time to transfer. Spotlight on
Winrar (and a whole plethora of other file compression apps such as 7zip
and WinACE, some free some not... all usable). We will keep it simple
and just focus on WinRar- You can use the .rar file compression to make
a "multi-volume .rar" which is basically your 450MB .iso compressed and
then split into smaller files. These files can be downloaded 1 by 1 and
when all stored in the same place will open to reveal your "ready to
burn" .iso file.
Why do this? Simple really. If you have split a 450MB .iso into 30x15MB
rar files and are sending them 1 at a time, if one fails you've only
lost 15MB of data and the lost part is all you need to resend. Genius.
So, since there's absolutely nowt wrong with being a newbie, how do we
tell the difference?
Again- easy when you know how:
1. Check your file associations- Open up WinRar, click Options >
Settings > Integration Tab > -make certain that the box for ISO is NOT
ticked- (if it is ticked untick it of course), hit OK and exit, happy in
the knowledge that WinRar will never again interfere with your disc
images!!
2. Now you've unassociated your .iso from WinRar browse to it's
location, right click on it and select *Open With...* (this will bring
up a menu of applications which may or may not be useful for .iso
burning) all that's required here is some common sense- you know the
name of your image burning software so click on that (be it nero or
imgburn etc etc) and put a tick in the box which says "Always use this
program to open files of this type". If (as will happen rarely) your
burning software is NOT listed you will need to use *browse* and locate
the .exe file which will most likely be in Program Files under either
it's name or it's developer; usually however this will not be necessary
as the appropriate program will appear listed; don't forget to tick the
box "always use this program...". Congratulations, you just succesfully
associated a filetype, nice work. Your reward is simple- next time you
have an .iso to burn all you need to do is double click it and your
image burning software will spring to life and do your bidding!
3. Hang on Goo?.....there's more than 1 file 'ere- Yep, that's a
multi-volume .rar and it should remain associated with WinRar. The files
will be labelled something like this (usually in order)
family_photo_slideshow.rar, family_photo_slideshow.r00,
family_photo_slideshow.r01, family_photo_slideshow.r02, etc etc. All you
need to do with this is right-click the first file ie.
family_photo_slideshow.rar and ask for it to be extracted. WinRar will
compile the volumes and uncompress the .iso which will appear in the
folder with the .rar files with (usually) the same name but since you
were groovy and learned how to properly associate the filetype it will
now look like this family_photo_slideshow.iso which you now double click
and watch your image burner do it's stuff.
4. Help! I've uncompressed the .rar file and there's nothing but a .txt
file??? Most likely explaination- you've just uncompressed an .iso which
has sadly rendered it useless. Delete everything except the *original*
file and check steps 1 + 2 again. It's highly likely you've missed
something.
"Lyna" Wrote:
A simple solution, you can reinstall your winrar with the lastest
version if you have and while installing you need to choose .iso file so
that the winrar can recognize the .iso file extention. After that, you
can extract the .iso file as any zipped file.
Everyone is different and that is what makes us all the more the same
so don't take this personally please, if it suits you to do this then
i'm not going to debase you for having a preference BUT in my experience
using unzips and unrars on .iso files is bad practice- i can't think of
a single reason why one would choose to unzip/unrar an .iso file. In
many situations i can think of you would be left with an installer which
won't work, surely?
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