Re: Vista -> Personal Folder -> Unix NAS BUG
- From: "Brontosaurus Burger AKA Vista!" <SPANKYEATSSH@xxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:08:22 +0200
do you have simple file sharing enabled in vista?
have you seen the group policy options for sharing security in vista?
"Nick" <a@xxxxx> wrote in message news:#hhiiHFXJHA.1528@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Kerry,.
So I guess there's no chance of escellating this as a bug then? Or should I be reporting it some other way?
Otherwise this thread has just stopped at a dead end and I have no solution to the problem. Thanks for your time.
Nick.
"Kerry Brown" <kerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*a*m> wrote in message news:ujEtj1uVJHA.5160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"Nick" <a@xxxxx> wrote in message news:eqGCz4kVJHA.1788@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxHi Kerry,
Our opinion differs here. After many years of administering networks I believe whenever possible UNC paths should be used. You never know what account context will be used to access a network share. It may not be your account but a system account that needs access. That may be what is happening in this case. The mapped drive will not exist for the system account. Adding your account to the cached passwords sometimes gets around the permissions issue but it won't get past a non-existing
for a system account.
The same path is resolved ultimately, so what's the difference? The main differences for me; is having the data accessible via a drive for ease of use and also assurance that credentials have already been authenticated during the connection process. Either way, this is *not* a problem with mapping a network drive, or referring to a UNC share, this is a problem with mapping said path to a *personal folder*. Both mapped drive and UNC share work great on their own, the problem occurs when changing the location of a personal folder, such as "My Music" to said location, then the error occurs.
I've already explained the difference. The mapped drive only exists for your account. It does not exist for system accounts. It may be a system account that is accessing the NAS. Explicitly setting your account in the cached credentials MAY allow the other accounts to access the NAS. It is worth a try.
If the NAS device allows you low level access to the NAS OS you can try the following Samba config changes and file system permissions.
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/archive/2007/03/16/using-offline-files-with-samba-emc-servers-nas-devices.aspx
Unfortunately I'm not sure I have low enough level access to be making the above changes.
Most consumer NAS' don't allow these types of configuration changes. You are reliant on the NAS manufacturer to come out with a Vista compatible firmware update.
Or for Microsoft to fix the obvious bug that's occuring here. If I apply a setting in any application, I expect that setting to take effect, this is not happening in Vista. I'll give you a perfect example,
1. Right click recycle bin
2. Locate mapped drive, this appear the second you map the drive to a personal folder.
3. Click on "Do not move files to the Recycle Bin. Remove files immediately when deleted."
The above does not get applied and the error continues. It's quite obvious that the NAS does not support trashing to a recycle bin because before it is mapped to the personal folder it works correctly and deleted files are removed without being recycled, this is automatically configured this way. Vista is trying to be clever and presuming that just because it's a personal folder that I want Recycle bin capabilities, I don't it's not working with this drive.
I've tested this in XP and it works just fine, no tedious error messages appear as the recycle bin knows it can't work for that location.
Just to clarify this entire problem, this bug is not with mapping network drives or referring to UNC locations, it only occurs once you have mapped said location to a personal folder. Upon this mapping an entry for the mapped drive / UNC appears in the recycle bin tree, all settings for this location are completely ignored and it insists on creating a recycle bin folder, and attemping to use it. Unmap the location as a personal folder and the bug goes away.
I think this is just a symptom of the fact that Vista is trying to setup offline files when you redirect a folder from your profile. Offline files in Vista work differently than they did in XP. They are not compatible with older versions of Samba. You could try disabling offline files but I don't know if this will work with folders from your profile. I've never experimented with it.
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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/
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