Re: Admin can't delete files - help please


"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23Ov51pCKJHA.5232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"news.microsoft.com" <anon@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:e1mZuVCKJHA.5232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I'm the admin and only user on my Vista comp and can't delete old files I no longer want. How do I delete these unwanted files and why don't I have complete control over my own PC? How do I disable all these unwanted "safety" features in control of my PC?

You're not admin with full rights on Vista with that out of the box user/admin account that Vista gives you, even if you disable UAC. There is only one user account that has full admin rights at all times, the same one that's on XP.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/

The above does not work because clicking on the command prompt doesn't give me the choice "Run as Administrator." How do I get around this in my version of Vista? Then there's this:

"Enable Built-in Administrator Account
First you'll need to open a command prompt in administrator mode by right-clicking and choosing "Run as administrator" (or use the Ctrl+Shift+Enter shortcut from the search box)"

Right clicking where? I'm not familiar with Vista. There is no search box in or on the command prompt. Where is it located? Also, since there is only one user, me, there are no passwords or other accounts on the machine. I can't follow the advice there. I need clear and simple directions for Vista Home Premium. I just want all these aggravating annoying unnecessary security "features" turned off so I have complete control of my own computer as I did with W95,W98 and XP.


Now, you could disable Simple File Sharing on Vista, look it up use Google, to expose the Security tab. You can then use Explore to go to the folder's or file's Properties to the Security tab, go to the Advanced button, to the Owner tab, and change ownership to Administrators to take ownership, since you are a part of Administrators with your other Vista user admin account. You can even do it at the folder or file level.

It's says "Enter the Objects Name." there. What is the objects name? What "object?" Please don't assume I'm familiar with Vista. Can you please just explain how I can turn off ALL THIS SECURITY crap?



If the Advanced button is not active, then you'll have to login with the account in the link above to have the button activated.

Here is a little test I want you to take to see account conflict permissions issues for user/admin on Vista.

1) Go to the Program Files and create a new directory call it *Test*. Vista should allow you to create the directory even as you being Admin on the machine.



2) Start Notepad enter some text and try to SaveAs with the file to Program Files/Test. You should get permission denied. Yeah, you're getting it even if the account you're using is your Admin account.

3) Come out of Notepad, forget the save, and cancel out of Notepad.

4) Go to the directory and to the Security tab for the directory and add a new account to the security account list. It's going to be the User account you login to the computer with as Admin. If you login with *Microsoft* as admin on the machine, then you're going to add *Microsoft* as another account the will have access to the directory.

I don't log into this PC. There are no passwords. I starts and I use it immediatly.


5) You'll set *Microsoft* to have Full Control just as Administrators has Full Control of the folder.


6) Go back to step # 2 with Notepad and try to SaveAs the file to Program Files\Test. You should be able to save the file.

Hopefully, you'll see the issue of account permissions conflict for the user/admin on Vista.

How can I do this where I can follow the steps, not having a sign in and password account, and there being no "Run as Administrator" choice in or on the command prompt?

On one hand, your account is in the Administrators group account. But on the other hand, your account is part of the User group account. If your user account *Microsoft* is not on the folder with the same rights as as Administrators, there is going to be a permissions conflict, because Vista with UAC enabled it is looking at the combined rights of those two accounts in some situations.

How can I have ONE ACCOUNT on this computer so I have full control over it instead of MS?


What Vista defaults to is Users account group permissions on the directory if it doesn't see your individual user account on the folder, and Users doesn't have Full Control.

How do I become the Admin with will rights to this PC? How do I get rid of all this security crap and confusing account nonsense?


This is because on Vista with UAC enabled, a user/admin on Vista is not an Admin with Full rights, like it is on XP or Win 2k.

Why is it so confusing? How do I get rid of all this stuff since no one uses this machine but me?






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