Re: For those of you who have disabled UAC while using user/admin, you don't have full admin rights -- <VBG>!

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do you wear a belt and suspenders at the same time?
that is the way I see vista, they went overboard...

"Paul Montgumdrop" <Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Not Even Me wrote:
"Paul Montgumdrop" <Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You don't have full rights as user/admin in some situations like on the
C:\Programs Files or C:\Windows folder with UAC enabled or disabled, and
I suspect some other folders that are *protected* from you.

I also suspect in some situation in dealing with the registry, it is
protecting itself too.

You don't even have full rights as admin if you're using that hidden
admin account on Vista too.

Vista is protecting itself from *you*. :-P

I knew from the beginning of Beta that Vista was being written by the
'protect me from myself' idiots that MS hired after AOL laid them off...
They think removing your ability to use the machine YOUR WAY is improved
security. I just call it a PITA!
In a business setting, I want the ability to lock some things down.
But on my personal machine, I want to be able to do what I want without
interference from some 'know it all' programmer's idea of security.
If I want it locked down, great!
But if I choose to NOT have it locked down, I should be able to do that
too as admin/owner of the system.

Well, it's not happening, and I don't think there is a thing you can do
about it either. I myself, welcome the fact, that the decision has been
made to protect the O/S and system as a whole from the ignorant and the
incompetent, unlike the previous versions of the NT based O/S.

That also means that if the user/admin is restricted from doing certain
things, then that also will mean that a malware program that runs under
the context of the user/admin account will have those restrictions
applied.

I have also discovered that by using the built-in hidden Administrator
account on Vista, the same account that is on XP and Win 2k that is not
hidden, then one does have full access rights and control of the system.

It's not apparent that one has the rights and can do things that the Admin
on previous versions of the NT based O/S(s) could do openly, but it's
there in the usage of the built-in Administrator account, and one has to
recognize its power and how to use the power of that account, because its
not apparent in some situations when it is being used.

On Vista, the user/admin account doesn't inherit rights from the built-in
Administrator full rights account, the one where one logs-in with user-id
= Administrator and give or not give a psw that has been set for the
account.

The user/admin account that Vista gives one out of the box, and any new
user/admin accounts that are created do NOT inherit rights from the
built-in Administrator account, and therefore, those accounts are not full
rights admin accounts, like on XP or Win 2K.

For the most part, one has the power as admin using the Vista user/admin
account, but in some situations, it doesn't have full rights with the
power of the built-in Administrator account, while in using the built-in
Administrator account, it's not apparent what one has to do - to do the
task. But you can do it.

But on the other hand, if one thinks one is going to be tricky on
folder/file permissions and other such things without taking the path
that's open to one, even using the built-in Administrator account, then
Vista is not going to allow it. :-P



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