Re: finding records in my computer
- From: Charlie Tame <charlie@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:24:40 -0500
When you access that email using Firefox or Internet Explorer for the first time with any computer FF or IE may ask you if you want to save the password. Unless it's your own computer at home you should probably say no, or use "Never save passwords". If you say yes the browser can remember that password.
After login if you close the browser or turn off the computer the website does not know you are gone for a while. It may have a timeout (Like Banks and other places do) but ene then it may be possible for someone to come along 5 minutes after you are gone and get right in again as you.
The only computer that could detail "All" the times your user ID was signed in and where from is the mail provider's server, but to have any kind of legal standing any evidence you get from them will have to be backed by one of their IT specialists and even then if it shows a work IP logged in while you were not there it may not reveal what was done, it certainly cannot tell who was at the keyboard. It does not "Prove" you were not there. You need other evidence (an "Alibi" for that.
I think, (and I am certainly not a lawyer) that a judge would see it this way.
You don't dispute that some email you wrote offended your employer, instead you are trying to show that he did not have permission to view it. If it was something like "My boss has been a jackass all day" then he needs to grow up, if it is something likely to "Damage" the company or is otherwise libelous then it is liable to go against you. Disgruntled employees can be very damaging.
Lauria wrote:
Even if I use a different type of email? My internet provider is set up through my phone service. They have webmail but it doesn't stay login like Yahoo..
Lauria
"Charlie Tame" wrote:
The point that everyone seems to be missing here is that with Yahoo (for example) you use the browser to read your email, and if your browser has saved your email password on the computer at work then it may well fill the password in automatically when the user name is typed in.
As for the time logged in do you mean they got this information from their own auditing system or from the web mail servers? If the latter it is probably meaningless, because many websites will not sign you out unless you sign out deliberately, for example Yahoo signs you out after a couple of weeks if you don't use it, but just exiting the browser or turning off the machine does not.
The thing is that your employer is entitled to monitor ALL traffic on the company network, and he doesn't have to have your password and read your email from the webmail website, when you send or receive ANYTHING via their network they CAN capture it.
Lauria wrote:Thank you that make sense. I have changed my email immediately after I found out. It just tos consequence, I got fired on the 12th. I have a copy of the Account Usage Report that shows time, date and how long that I've been on the internet. I have never leave my computer on for 24 hours a day. According to the report, it showed that I left my computer on for 6 days, started on the 6/08 to 6/13. I was fired on the 12th. The Account Usage Report show that I used my internet everyday except from 8th to 12th. I'm in the process of going back to the hearing and I need to explain to the judge that the information that he gotten was from my webmail and it wasn't from a friend of mine, it was from my sister.
The boss stated that he got information about some comments that I've made to a friend of mine which it was none of his business anyway. That information was between me and her and we were emailing each other from home. I told my friend who still works there about this and she immediately contact her internet provider to change her password, too. They got something on her too and she had been warned.
Lauria
"John D. Sheridan" wrote:
They wouldn't have necessarily have had to use a key-recorder to do that. Every webpage you visit is downloaded to a location on your hard drive, and with a little knowledge anyone can read those pages, and that includes web email. Yahoo is the easiest, GMail the hardest.
OK, take a deep breath.
If your boss used a key-recorder on your work computer to get your email password, it would not show up on your home computer. It just doesn't work that way. Your home computer can only show you when it is logged in to. It will not show if you boss logged in to your web email from another computer. I doubt your home computer would even show when you logged in to your web email, it would only when you log in to Windows. Your web email service might be able to tell you what computers have used your email, and only then would you be able to tell if someone else was getting in to it. In any event, he wouldn't have hacked your home computer, so there's nothing there to find. Even if you find that someone else was accessing your web email, you have to prove it was him. Where I work, I would only be able to prove that one of the 10,000 people that work there did it.
In any event, if you think it was him, you may want to contact an attorney.
I hope you have changed your email password since all of this began. I advise people to never do anything on their work computer that they would be afraid to show their boss, and that includes personal email.
John
"Lauria" <Lauria@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1A51DA39-2D42-49A4-A0AE-CDC97DC2E9F3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI turned my computer off every night. What gets me, he knows alot of
informations that are between me and my friends that we don't talk about at
work. We emailed to each other after work. I contacted my internet provider
and they told me that it looks like my internet and webmail had be opened for
6 days which I know it isn't true. I have records in my computer that I have
sign off and on. I'm just trying to find a way or who can I ask about
helping me out. I got denied unemployment benefit because of the his lies.
"Ringmaster" wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:28:01 -0700, Lauria
<Lauria@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, he has a software called Keystroke Reorder.I assume you mean Keystroke Recorder.
http://www.smartkeystrokerecorder.com/
I don't see any feature listed where your boss installing this
software on HIS computer so he could monitor email on YOUR computer.
You sound paranoid. That obviously would be illegal and if true you
could file a big fat law suit and take your boss to the cleaners. The
product is designed to PROTECT the computer it is installed on, not
snoop on another computer. So do NOT accuse him of doing that or he
might turn around and sue you!
These days a LOT of companies snoop on their employees but while at
work on company computers. That is legal. What you're suggesting
sounds far fetched. While some of what you suggest is technically
possible I simply can't accept any company would do it or for that
matter know HOW to do it.
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