Vista is not a failure. The MS marketing team is...

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Here are some interesting comments on that subject:

"Article (20 things Windows 7 MUST include) shows how much of a failure Microsoft's Marketing team is, not how Vista failed.

For example, although there are tiny CPU scheduler changes in Vista, the big changes things like a GPU scheduler, and I if the author of the article doesn't even know which or what the difference is, show how sad the level of understanding of Vista is.

Additionally, the article lacks any technical credibility, as it argues for Windows 7 to be more modular, but then goes to use Linux as an example of a good thing. Linux is the opposite of Modular when you look at what Linux is specifically, as the kernel architecture is not only not-modular, but spaghetti'ed together, to the point that a scheduling lock change has disrupted the whole kernel development process.

Linux is NOT a modular OS. The UNIX framework and the 'separation' of the OS layers is modular, but has NOTHING to do with Linux. Windows, to Window Manager, to core OS and kernel levels are separate because Linux doesn't strive to be a GUI or provide an upper level OS environment. In this understanding, DOS was also very 'modular', as it separated the Window Environment (Win3.x) as well. (This type of misunderstanding is where an editor would normally go, ouch, this article needs to be reviewed by a technical writer before we post it.)


One thing I have argued about Vista all along is a two fold problem. First the MS Marketing Team have little understanding what Vista does that is good or cool, and the MS Marketing team/business side had too much control over the versions of Vista released, and fragmented features across versions.

For example Flip3D is NOT a feature or even that cool, is the result of the cool technologies of a Vector composer in Vista, that is doing things even KDE 4 or OS X can't do. Yet marketing says nothing of this, any only talk about Flip3D as a feature.

If you look at the OS X 10.5 release, Apple listed 300 features new from 10.4. However, if MS would have done this with Vista, and been as picky as Apple was about what little things it wanted to 'list' as features, the list would have been 5,000-10,000 features new in Vista. Yet Apple was able to act like 10.5 had more 'features' over the previous version than Vista did, which is so far from true, it is plain hyperbole.

The different Vista versions, especially the Basic and difference from Home to Ultimate was insane and stupid. Sure business doesn't want Media Center installed on computers, but MS should have provided two versions. Business ONLY, that had a default install that doesn't easily allow the games etc, but are still available, and a Normal version that will allow have a default install, and give both versions the ability to select what features they want with a clear understanding of what they are.

So with the versions MS blew it. Additionally, because a lot of the 'cool' features were only in Business or Ultimate, MS could fight about against Apple. Take Time Machine form OS X, Vista's previous versions in Ultimate and Business do every that Time Machine does, easier, with existing backups, in addition to providing the time snapshots on the volume without moving GBs of data to the backup every hour. Microsoft didn't leave the UI in the Home versions, because of the stupid marketing/business teams at MS, and so Microsoft couldn't advertise it or even shove Time Machine back at Apple, showing that it was a poor copy of a technology already in Vista.
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