Re: Secret Source code ...

From: Joseph M. Newcomer (newcomer_at_flounder.com)
Date: 03/07/04 

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:07:26 -0500

Did you try a general google search?
                        joe

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:21:00 +0100, "Boo" <noadr@none.org> wrote:

>Thanks for this nice answer, unfortunatly, i've already check codeguru and
>codeproject and google, that's why i ask here. The codes i found are exactly
>the sames as what i have done. The one i wanted to use is ultra buggy.
>Sorry.
>
>Boo
>
>PS : I had never complain, i just asked about explorer code.
>
>
>
>"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> a écrit dans le message de
>news:lavm40pmfdqgt2khb337uuchbc16evtpsh@4ax.com...
>> AHHHH, that's different! What you have here is not a need for a tree
>control, but a need
>> for an explorer. And that's an application, not a control. The stuff that
>makes "my
>> documents" work is not the tree control itself, but the tons of code
>around it that
>> interpret those elements.
>>
>> Buying visual studio doesn't give you every control ever written by
>everyone, and
>> certainly not every control written by Microsoft. While it would actually
>help them to
>> make many of these controls widely available, each such control generates
>a need to create
>> documentation and provide support. And that has to have a justification
>from a business
>> perspective. I'd love to see them myself.
>>
>> There are many resources of good free code out there; www.codeproject.com
>and
>> www.codeguru.com are two of my favorites, but google will give you a LOT
>of hits.
>>
>> (And, I should add, if you've figured out how to do this, perhaps you owe
>the community
>> the benefit of your efforts, and should publish your code. I tend to get a
>little upset
>> with people who make a Big Deal about Unix/Linux/Open Source, but when I
>ask them how much
>> THEY have put out in open source the answer is "nothing" because "I don't
>have time" or
>> "It's really proprietary" or "I don't want to give my work away").
>>
>> I make no excuses; I write code that has value, and I sell it to clients.
>But a lot of my
>> code gets put on my Web site, particularly that which has no proprietary
>conflicts. But I
>> consider myself an educator.
>>
>> There's a lot of really good code out there, open source and free in
>Windows. Until you've
>> actually gone out and done the search, you shouldn't complain just because
>Microsoft keeps
>> their code private (in the history of operating systems, virtually no
>system I know of has
>> been "Open Source", with the exception of ITS (MIT), the Stanford
>University SAIL version
>> of a PDP-10 operating system whose acronym I've forgotten, and Linux. I'm
>reasonably
>> certain the 7090 operating system developed by the IBM User Group called
>SHARE was
>> open-source, but that was not an IBM product (IBM had a really good
>open-source library
>> where outsiders could make contributions; my first three published
>programs were published
>> in that library, back around 1966-1967) There have been a lot of
>open-source application
>> efforts, most notably GNU. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are, as I remember, roughly
>around the time
>> of Linux. But most operating system code from IBM, Univac, Digital, and
>several other
>> companies whose equipment I worked with was clearly copyrighted material
>and in some cases
>> I had to sign non-disclosure agreements to see it at all. Unix was never
>open source, and
>> still isn't, in spite of the fact that tens of thousands of programmers
>have seen it
>> (millions of people have read popular books but that doesn't give the
>readers the right to
>> reproduce the contents, plots, etc. and claim them as their own). So
>Microsoft is
>> essentially no different from any other commercial operating system and
>application
>> company in the world, except they're bigger (try asking Corel for the
>source code for
>> their products, or Adobe, or Cisco, or MacroMedia, or...). When you buy
>MacroMedia Flash
>> (a development environment) you don't buy the rights to their source code.
>Why do you
>> think Microsoft owes you their source code because you bought their
>development
>> environment?
>>
>> joe
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:36:26 +0100, "Boo" <noadr@none.org> wrote:
>>
>> >I already did that and already program it (IShellFolder /
>> >SHGetSpecialFolderLocation / SHGetDesktopFolder / SHGetMalloc ...). But i
>> >would like to know if there is an existing class or a free code to
>implement
>> >this like in 3D exploration software. I can't spend 3 or 4 months to
>> >implement right mouse button, copy/paste, move, ...
>> >
>> >thanks
>> >
>> >Boo
>> >
>> >"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> a écrit dans le message de
>> >news:edDi63FBEHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> The tree view is a standard control. See "Tree-View Controls" in the
>> >> platform SDK.
>> >>
>> >> To fill the tree with real folders, check User Interface
>Services/Windows
>> >> Shell/Shell Reference" for shell enumeration interface. See there also
>for
>> >> drag-drop and context menu interfaces.
>> >>
>> >> "Boo" <noadr@none.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:c2euua$kmd$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr...
>> >> >
>> >> > Is the left side view of explorer a secret source code or what ?
>I
>> >> just
>> >> > would like to integrate the folder tree of the explorer in one of my
>> >app.
>> >> > and i couldnt find any class or function to integrate it. I found on
>the
>> >> web
>> >> > some samples and some class that use to be 'fakes' and implement
>their
>> >own
>> >> > method to browse folders, like that, impossible to use drag&ndrop
>> >methods,
>> >> > right mouse button properties, rename ...
>> >> > Do I really need to implement all those functions ? isnt there an
>> >> > existing class or template ? If all must be rewrite again, why did i
>> >> bought
>> >> > visual stuio ? ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance for your answers, i'm sure i'm not the first
>who
>> >ask
>> >> > that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Boo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
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